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Envesta Telecom (EVS)     

paulbrooks71 - 19 Jan 2005 12:17

Have a look at todays news threads for EVS, great first half results, important acquisition announced, more exciting news promised in February. Up 25% so far today.

andysmith - 09 May 2005 22:00 - 254 of 305

Thats the cat amongst the pigeons Ian. So this notorious haystack person, is he not de-ramping then in an unnecessary manner or was it just that IYO tenereds went too far personally. Its p'd me off cos I'm looking at EVS and all this has been a distraction. We seem to be getting too many stray folk from other boards intent on bashing stocks on moneyam, we have the insiderinsider bloke on SEO talking absolute crap and now this haystack bloke. I have and do value the moneyam boards for honest opinions but I am hoping these bashers don't ruin it in the way that they apparently do on other boards.

ptholden - 09 May 2005 22:52 - 255 of 305

AndyS

Must admit I was tempted to dip a toe in on Friday following the non-effect of the General Election. However, although the Support at 3.8p has now been tested on two occasions and the rising trend remains intact (albeit only just) the indicators just do not support further strength. In fact the opposite may be true. Always difficult to make a TA judgement with these small caps though. I wouldn't be surprised if it went either way to be honest, but at the moment I think I am leaning towards further weakness. Keeping on the Watchlist for now.

Regards

PTH

andysmith - 10 May 2005 08:16 - 256 of 305

Thanks Pete, much the same here, would rather pay 4.5-5.0p and be sure.

Haystack - 10 May 2005 11:06 - 257 of 305

andysmith

The point is that personal attacks are not permitted on MoneyAm. Discussions should be kept to the stocks in question. That way things do not get out of hand and we can all remain fairly polite even if we do not agree with other posters.

As for me, I am very bearish about EVS. I think they were over hyped recently, which caused a temporary rise in the share price. This seems to be being corrected at the moment and the price is returning to a more sensible level.

EVS has a business unit call CCR. I think this will lose money and be a financial drag on EVS. I don't like its business model or its methods. It has a strange system where you have to register every number that you want to call and get a substitute number for it. This seems cumbersome and most other calling systems are easier to use.

CCR may find it difficult to get cusomers as they are relatively expensive compared to many of the other calling companies. They are nowhere near the cheapest to any destination in the world.

If you do want to find cheap calls then look at this site. It is not a commercial site, but just a list of other cheap calling companies and compares their rates.

http://niftylist.co.uk

PS
I am not one of the "many stray folk from other boards ". I have been here since MoneyAm began and have been posting here since then.

ptholden - 10 May 2005 11:11 - 258 of 305

Haystack

You are quite right to say that personal attacks should not be permitted and we all have a right to voice an opinion about any share (holder or not). However, I hope you are not going to 'spam' this thread in the same way you have on the other side, which does you or the other posters no credit whatsoever.

Regards

PTH

Haystack - 10 May 2005 11:18 - 259 of 305

ptholden
My posts on the other BB are a respnse to personal abuse.

I do expect to continue to post negative views on EVS here however.

hlyeo98 - 10 May 2005 12:31 - 260 of 305

Haystack...please don't try to deramp...cos EVS is a great potential

Haystack - 10 May 2005 12:42 - 261 of 305

hyleo98
Whether EVS has any potential is a personal opinion. I don't think they have much potential at all.

The cheap call market is extremely crowded. It has large numbers of players who are much cheaper than EVS. The calling card business is also very cut throat. I see shops selling 5 calling cards at 3.50 these days to shift them.

If you travel on the Tube these days you are bombarded by large and small adverts for cheap calling services. You could easily produce a long list of cheap calling companies that are much cheaper than EVS's CCR service.

A big drawback to CCR's service is the methodology where you have to register every number that you want to call.

grevis2 - 10 May 2005 15:31 - 262 of 305

I would suggest that everytime the farm labourer turns up just keep posting this:

The forcasts for EVS are:

Year ending 30 June 2005: EPS 0.33p, PE 12.17
Year ending 30 June 2006: EPS 0.64p, PE 6.36, growth 91.39%

Haystack - 10 May 2005 15:40 - 263 of 305

EVS has just dropped in price.

Two more MMs just dropped their prices. Two MMs now on 4p and one on 3.95p and one on 3.85p. That's 3 MMs down today.

Plenty of selling coming in now.

Haystack - 10 May 2005 15:41 - 264 of 305

Forecasts are just that. They can be out above or BELOW.

Haystack - 10 May 2005 15:45 - 265 of 305

I think you posted that just now. It looks the same.

grevis2 - 10 May 2005 15:51 - 266 of 305

The forcasts for EVS are:

Year ending 30 June 2005: EPS 0.33p, PE 12.17
Year ending 30 June 2006: EPS 0.64p, PE 6.36, growth 91.39%

Haystack - 10 May 2005 15:59 - 267 of 305

Reposting the same three lines does not make a very good thread. It doesn't increase the validity of your post and is a bit pointless.

grevis2 - 10 May 2005 16:04 - 268 of 305

The forcasts for EVS are:

Year ending 30 June 2005: EPS 0.33p, PE 12.17
Year ending 30 June 2006: EPS 0.64p, PE 6.36, growth 91.39%

ptholden - 10 May 2005 16:08 - 269 of 305

Grevis

I have filtered Haystack, due to the repetitive nature of his posts. If you have a look over the other side you will note that he has done exactly the same thing. I am afraid that he seems to take pleasure in 'bashing' many stocks, EVS being a favoutite at the moment and all he posts is SPAM. Your call, but to preserve whatever sensible posts are made on this thread, I would humbly suggest that you do likewise.

Regards
PTH

capetown - 10 May 2005 16:10 - 270 of 305

grevis,i will

Haystack - 10 May 2005 16:11 - 271 of 305

EVS is down again now.

One MM on 3.95 and three on 3.85p.

grevis2 - 10 May 2005 17:51 - 272 of 305

EVS stock will recover from these levels. The fundamentals are still strong. Their management consists of top men from within the telecom's industry and to date theyve not let us down. Were simply suffering from boredom due to the lack of any significant announcements.

We know their brokers have a high opinion of this stock and have forecast a substantial increase in earnings over the next year or two. This has brought in Legal and General and the Strathclyde Pension Fund, both of whom now have a notifiable stake.

When the price turns the MMs will restrict stock, as weve so often witnessed, and the price will go sky high once again. This is illustrated by the speed with which FMJ shot up this afternoon on comparatively small volume. Keep the faith and tuck away a few EVS before the next move forward occurs. Dont let the farm labourer and his other alias get you down. Good luck!

Haystack - 10 May 2005 18:00 - 273 of 305

grevis2
I have no aliases. I post exclusively under one user name.
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