goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
TANKER
- 28 May 2013 09:25
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tomasz
- 28 May 2013 09:30
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I'll not repeat again.
Fred1new
- 28 May 2013 10:25
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Come on Cynic.
They could use Syria as a testing zone for recent developments in armaments for Russia and China against the West. (Modern warfare against last week's.)
Besides the armament industry in the UK needs a financial stimulus of some kind or another and what does a 100,000 or Syrians matter?
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Is there a question of raising the "fear" level in the UK in some of the recent policies being suggested?
Who gains from increasing the level?
How does the level of "terrorist" actions in Libya, Syria, West Bank and Israel, etc. compare with the UK?
The mortality and morbidity rates and danger levels are obviously higher. Is the fear rate higher and again what are the gains?
Haystack
- 28 May 2013 10:29
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Stella Remington is right. People need to be more aware of what is going on around them.
Russia are not just supplying arms to Hezbollah. They are supplying arms direct to Syria. There is a risk that any arms we send will find their way into other conflicts in the region. Had the EU and the US acted earlier then the rebels would not have been infiltrated by extremists. The longer we leave any help, the more likely that any future government will be dominated by religious extremists.
TANKER
- 28 May 2013 10:50
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stella Remington is correct but then the police will arrest you for being racist
muslims can speak of murdering brittish people and call to behead them and
the police walk away .
what the hell has happened to the uk
thousands of terrorist walking our streets and they can strike at any time but it does
not affect MPs and alike has they are protected .
it is time to deort any known terrorist or people speaking agaings the uk
Haystack
- 28 May 2013 11:03
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The police do arrest people calking for killing. You cannot deport most of such people as they were born here.
ahoj
- 28 May 2013 11:15
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Tanker, I am ashamed to say that those who defend Human Right are in fact defending criminals and defend right for criminals.
If we had death penalty, many of these criminals wouldn't do the crime.
Anyway, criminals are going to enjoy life in prison, much better than many jobless in the country. They will have free lawyer, lunch, accommodation, etc, and laugh at every taxpayer in the country.
cynic
- 28 May 2013 11:22
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i'll ignore the other loonies here and stick with Hays!
Hays - it's certainly very murky as to exactly who is supplying hezbollah ..... clearly both syria and iran are, but from where or whom are they getting these supplies?
ahoj
- 28 May 2013 11:24
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Cynic, I think we should sort out our internal issues before being worried about Asad and allies.
cynic
- 28 May 2013 11:32
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it's not a uk decision but a collective one through eu and really relates (i think) to whether the current ban on supplying arm to the "rebels" should be extended or abandoned
much as you might wish it, uk is not an insulated entity, and much as you might like to solve each problem one by one, that of course is totally impossible in the real world
Fred1new
- 28 May 2013 11:59
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Tinker,
Sometimes I think your postings have much in similarity to the religiose extremist propagating violence in various parts of the world and the "streets" of the UK.
What you propose seem to advocate violence to-wards another group as a response to their violence.
Much in common, comes to mind.
After you have got rid of all the Muslims, which other group would you focus your attention on.
Haystack
- 28 May 2013 12:31
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Hezbollah are getting arms from Syria and Iran. Russia is supplying Syria direct. Iran manufactures a lot of their arms to including drones, surface to air missiles, rockets. They have even built submarines recently. There is some evidence that Russia many be supplying Iran as well.
Haystack
- 28 May 2013 12:40
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Now that the EU ban has been lifted, France and the UK are considering supplying arms unilaterally.
ahoj
- 28 May 2013 12:48
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let's go back to basics and discuss our responsibility to our nation than other nations. we should ignore all these and focus on putting right everything internally.
We should let Human right help humans not the criminals and we should start right here.
I think most religions are misused by criminals (as it is now), direct or indirectly, to serve their interest.
Islam is misused more as it is believed by the poor in less educated countries.Those people do not have access to TV, internet, and even phone, so they do not know what we say or what is happening outside their village.... We should not be surprised to see that they follow advise by their leaders ....
Haystack
- 28 May 2013 12:52
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cynic
I was just reading some stuff about Russia cancelling surface to air missile contracts with Iran and other arms worth around $13 billion. Iran expects to get arms from China now.
skinny
- 28 May 2013 12:54
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Russian arms 'to deter foreign intervention in Syria'
Russia says it will go ahead with deliveries of S-300 anti-aircraft missiles to Syria, and that the arms will help deter foreign intervention.
Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said the missiles were a "stabilising factor" that could dissuade "some hotheads" from entering the conflict.
Haystack
- 28 May 2013 13:07
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That is exactly the same S-300 that Russia stopped supplying to Iran under UN arms embargo last year.
Haystack
- 28 May 2013 13:10
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The BBC's Jim Muir in Beirut says the Russian statement could be seen as an escalation. He says there had been reports that Moscow was holding back on delivering the arms, in exchange for an Israeli commitment not to carry out further air raids over Syria.
Israeli Defence Minister Moshe Yaalon said the Russian missile systems had not yet left Russia.
"I hope they will not leave, and if, God forbid, they reach Syria, we will know what to do," he said.
TANKER
- 28 May 2013 13:14
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fred your post .
read my posts it says any person breaking the uk laws should be deported
and if they say they are british and they do not find a country to go to
then we should pay a country to take them .any one wanting to kill our police or forces . we must not allow terrorist to roam our streets shout behead people
no matter of their colour or creed deport them .
if these scum shout abuse on our streets the police should arrest them and take them to a deport station till the plane leaves
ahoj
- 28 May 2013 13:21
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Death penalty for such criminals. ... Sending them abroad won't help