Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Tanker, I am ashamed to say that those who defend Human Right are in fact defending criminals and defend right for criminals.

If we had death penalty, many of these criminals wouldn't do the crime.

Anyway, criminals are going to enjoy life in prison, much better than many jobless in the country. They will have free lawyer, lunch, accommodation, etc, and laugh at every taxpayer in the country.

i'll ignore the other loonies here and stick with Hays!

Hays - it's certainly very murky as to exactly who is supplying hezbollah ..... clearly both syria and iran are, but from where or whom are they getting these supplies?

Cynic, I think we should sort out our internal issues before being worried about Asad and allies.

it's not a uk decision but a collective one through eu and really relates (i think) to whether the current ban on supplying arm to the "rebels" should be extended or abandoned

much as you might wish it, uk is not an insulated entity, and much as you might like to solve each problem one by one, that of course is totally impossible in the real world

Tinker,

Sometimes I think your postings have much in similarity to the religiose extremist propagating violence in various parts of the world and the "streets" of the UK.

What you propose seem to advocate violence to-wards another group as a response to their violence.

Much in common, comes to mind.

After you have got rid of all the Muslims, which other group would you focus your attention on.

Hezbollah are getting arms from Syria and Iran. Russia is supplying Syria direct. Iran manufactures a lot of their arms to including drones, surface to air missiles, rockets. They have even built submarines recently. There is some evidence that Russia many be supplying Iran as well.

Now that the EU ban has been lifted, France and the UK are considering supplying arms unilaterally.

let's go back to basics and discuss our responsibility to our nation than other nations. we should ignore all these and focus on putting right everything internally.

We should let Human right help humans not the criminals and we should start right here.

I think most religions are misused by criminals (as it is now), direct or indirectly, to serve their interest.

Islam is misused more as it is believed by the poor in less educated countries.Those people do not have access to TV, internet, and even phone, so they do not know what we say or what is happening outside their village.... We should not be surprised to see that they follow advise by their leaders ....

cynic
I was just reading some stuff about Russia cancelling surface to air missile contracts with Iran and other arms worth around $13 billion. Iran expects to get arms from China now.

Russian arms 'to deter foreign intervention in Syria'

Russia says it will go ahead with deliveries of S-300 anti-aircraft missiles to Syria, and that the arms will help deter foreign intervention.

Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said the missiles were a "stabilising factor" that could dissuade "some hotheads" from entering the conflict.

That is exactly the same S-300 that Russia stopped supplying to Iran under UN arms embargo last year.

The BBC's Jim Muir in Beirut says the Russian statement could be seen as an escalation. He says there had been reports that Moscow was holding back on delivering the arms, in exchange for an Israeli commitment not to carry out further air raids over Syria.

Israeli Defence Minister Moshe Yaalon said the Russian missile systems had not yet left Russia.

"I hope they will not leave, and if, God forbid, they reach Syria, we will know what to do," he said.

fred your post .
read my posts it says any person breaking the uk laws should be deported
and if they say they are british and they do not find a country to go to
then we should pay a country to take them .any one wanting to kill our police or forces . we must not allow terrorist to roam our streets shout behead people
no matter of their colour or creed deport them .
if these scum shout abuse on our streets the police should arrest them and take them to a deport station till the plane leaves

Death penalty for such criminals. ... Sending them abroad won't help

what would happen if you spoke out in india Dubai Saudi you would be whipped and put in prison . we must do the same

HUMAN RIGHTS ARE ONLY FOR CRIMINALS NOT HONEST PEOPLE
and if they want a family life send them with them on the same plane solved

fred by the way just spoken to my friend he agrees 100% he is hindu

ahoj it all depends were you send them .to deal with them their way .

the killing of that soldier was an attack on the queen . treason

Most of these ideas are unrealistic. The UK will never bring back the death penalty. The trend among western democracies is to scrap the death penalty. There is also no chance of our courts allowing British citizens to be deported to other countries for money or any other reason. You have to work within our practices and laws. If we have evidence of incitement to violence or actual violence then there are suitable laws to imprison convicted people.

What you might like to do has no bearing on what can be done.

the voters in the uk will show the laws they want to change when over 50% vote UKIP
and make no mistake ukip will get the biggest vote evr one I speak to and ever were I go it is do not forget vote UKIP

we want human rights put in the bin and the EU