Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack,

Me thinks we will have to agree to disagree re UKIP, as the manifesto I read did cost their policies.

but were not those costings heavily challenged by "those who know"?

Syria says that it has received the first shipments of the Russian S-300 missiles.

Ed Miliband 'Lacks Credible Economic Message', Says Party Donor


A top Labour donor has criticised Ed Miliband for lacking a "credible" economic message.

The attack came on the same day a YouGov poll showed Miliband is seen as less trustworthy, decisive and competent than his much-scorned predecessor, Gordon Brown.

In an interview with LondonlovesBusiness.com, JML chairman John Mills, said Labour lacks a "clear idea on how to get the economy growing again".

Mills claimed Miliband and shadow chancellor Ed Balls had failed to convey a "credible" economic message to the public and had not shown they had a "clear idea on how to get the economy growing again at a reasonable speed and how to get the deficit down to a much more sustainable proportion".

Mills is the largest donor to the Labour Party this year giving twice as much as the Unite union.

Spring will be coldest in 50 years, Met Office says

May has also been wetter than average, forecasters said

This spring is on track to be the coldest for more than 50 years, provisional Met Office figures suggest.

This month has seen lower than average temperatures and it has been wetter than usual, forecasters said.

The UK's mean temperature for spring - based on figures from 1 March to 28 May - is currently 6C.

If conditions stay the same in the last days of May, it will be the coldest spring since 1962, and the fifth coldest since records began in 1910.

The Met Office said earlier figures from 1 March to 15 May suggested spring was on track to be the sixth coldest since records began, and the coldest since 1979.

But cooler than average weather in the past fortnight has pushed the mean temperature for the season slightly lower, it said.

Whatever happened to global warming, I thought the ice caps were supposed to be melting?

Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released... and here is the chart to prove it

The figures reveal that from the beginning of 1997 until August 2012 there was no discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures
This means that the ‘pause’ in global warming has now lasted for about the same time as the previous period when temperatures rose, 1980 to 1996


The world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago, according to new data released last week.

The figures, which have triggered debate among climate scientists, reveal that from the beginning of 1997 until August 2012, there was no discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures.

This means that the ‘plateau’ or ‘pause’ in global warming has now lasted for about the same time as the previous period when temperatures rose, 1980 to 1996. Before that, temperatures had been stable or declining for about 40 years.

The new data, compiled from more than 3,000 measuring points on land and sea, was issued quietly on the internet, without any media fanfare, and, until today, it has not been reported.

This stands in sharp contrast to the release of the previous figures six months ago, which went only to the end of 2010 – a very warm year.

Ending the data then means it is possible to show a slight warming trend since 1997, but 2011 and the first eight months of 2012 were much cooler, and thus this trend is erased.

Some climate scientists, such as Professor Phil Jones, director of the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, last week dismissed the significance of the plateau, saying that 15 or 16 years is too short a period from which to draw conclusions.

Others disagreed. Professor Judith Curry, who is the head of the climate science department at America’s prestigious Georgia Tech university, told The Mail on Sunday that it was clear that the computer models used to predict future warming were ‘deeply flawed’.

Even Prof Jones admitted that he and his colleagues did not understand the impact of ‘natural variability’ – factors such as long-term ocean temperature cycles and changes in the output of the sun. However, he said he was still convinced that the current decade would end up significantly warmer than the previous two.

UKIP manifesto written to attract the looney right of the tories (and it does) and the little englanders and the rag and tag of the BNP.

It has been attracting plenty of Labour faithfuil. and they don't come more loony than that.

Hays still in denial.

LOL, itl come as a shock to him when Labour have an outright majority at the next election.

300% increase in people using Food Banks......... all workers aswel and estimated 40% Tory voters.........well previous Tory voters.

have you backed that with dosh?
if so, what odds did you get?

cynic

Who is sillier? Fred or goldfinger?

300% increase in people using food banks - so that they have more money to spend on booze. How many of the people you find begging on the streets in London, if you are stupid enough to give them a fiver they spend it the nearest off-licence.

You have to ignore a lot of such stats. They are quoted all over the place by the SWP and other lefty mobs when there is a Conservative government.

It was interesting to see that, the day before yesterday, the OECD said that the UK government were doing all the right things and that we need even more austerity.

If we had a Labour government, we would still have cuts but where would all the rhetoric be about food banks?

It is all lefty drivel.

Hays,

You are in a period of denial.

The reason for Miliband not writing the labour party's manifesto is that the election is 18mths away and god only knows the mess the shambles of a government is going to leave and if the UK is involved in a ME war.

The Thatcher excuse.

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Doodles I didnt take you for being an ignorant type.

Food banks are not for the Homeless...... those are food kitchens.

Food banks are for working people who cannot make ends meet. Their is strict criteria for the giving by the charitys who run them.

Just goes to show doesnt it in this example how middle/to higher class people are taken in by right wing propaganda.

The most famous case of recent being David Camerons Election Broadcast were he tried and did con the majority of middle class and working class people into thinking that they the government were bringing down the debt where in effect it was the deficit (he used the word debt).

He was reported for the matter and had a written bollocking, not that the liar would give a s-it.

Time some on here got their facts right and realised Hays is a very ignorant and at times inebriated plonker who always has to go calling on his side kick cynic.

Smacks of insecurity to me.

OOOps goldfinger - just read from my eyes which are attached to a peanut brain that you are suggesting perons may be inebriated plonkers on here (this site) who reported the other week that (he was fishing with loads of lagers dangling in his keep net to keep cool - in the morning). If my peanut brain serves me correctly they were stellas - trip to the moon and back, would not have been you by any chance would it? I suppose that when one is of such a young age as yourself, weighs copious amounts and stands nearly 7 foot your body and mind can take it. Shares in Opay not so good at the moment. Good nite.

gf, "Food banks are for working people who cannot make ends meet" - according to what research? Did this country have "food banks" during the second World War? My mother found 10 ways of making a small bag of potatoes last a whole week in those days, possibly because this country didn't have "food banks" at that time. Just because I don't agree with your views hardly classifies me as an "ignorant type" - thank you. And while I'm on a roll here, I think you are an absolute pain in the backside on this thread with your constant silly barbs at Chris Carson - however that's your choice to make yourself look like an absolute muppet.