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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


bosley - 14 Jan 2008 10:46 - 25529 of 27111



sd, some jam for you.

driver - 14 Jan 2008 10:52 - 25530 of 27111

Now What Can I Do With The Rest Of That 8m


BAYLIS - 14 Jan 2008 11:59 - 25531 of 27111

great

stockdog - 14 Jan 2008 13:48 - 25532 of 27111

Mmm, thimbleberry - my favourite. Thanks Bosley - how's sticks? as you might say.

oblomov - 14 Jan 2008 14:45 - 25533 of 27111



Yes, Alan and greek - but 'already'? Its as if that is a great achievement that he's trying to be more commercial so early(???) on after taking over - he should have been doing it from day one! It's a business he's running, not a WI cake stall at the local fete!

Fine the bastards 8m - that'll not only teach them a lesson, it'll put us all out of our misery!

kimoldfield - 14 Jan 2008 16:23 - 25534 of 27111

It's a pity that whoever has put a "potential" offer in for Meldex doesn't want SEO as well............but there again, who does?!

EWRobson - 14 Jan 2008 21:15 - 25535 of 27111

Jam today but no jam tomorrow. Bosley's jam has disappeared from my screen! He obviously didn't know that they don't allow advertising here.

Good to see some old friends! And looking to be cheered up which I have been. Now, SEO have cash of 8m and what is the share capitalisation: 8m. I think shareholders funds are double that. A bit of a spurt last week, in case there was any good news today, perhaps indicates that there is life after .... Does anyone reckon that they have anything of significant potential?

Eric

required field - 14 Jan 2008 23:12 - 25536 of 27111

The more I read their RNS's the more I'm puzzled as to what do they actually do ?

tweenie - 14 Jan 2008 23:16 - 25537 of 27111

They've got plenty of potential.
However, they are incapable to turning that potential into actual sales and revenue.
But they've got enough cash to drag this show on for a couple of more years.. so you live in hope that eventually someone wil have enough nonce/ability to sell/flog/give away enough of the stuff to start generating some income.
time to put away and forget and move onto fresh fields.

required field - 14 Jan 2008 23:24 - 25538 of 27111

It's a bit like the time when Groucho Marx was asked (when he was at Lords cricket ground for the first time ) ; What did he think of it so far ? after an hour and a half of play ? and his reply was to say : it's all very nice, but when does the game start ? Stanelco is the same !

greekman - 15 Jan 2008 07:26 - 25539 of 27111

Perhaps SEO is a front company for donations to you know who.

garyble - 15 Jan 2008 09:08 - 25540 of 27111

With Biotec sales increasing, with no contribution or influence from SEO, I reckon SEO may find themselves in a slight profit without having to do much!

kimoldfield - 15 Jan 2008 10:18 - 25541 of 27111

That is very worrying Garyble, it is against SEO's principles to make a profit!

garyble - 15 Jan 2008 10:40 - 25542 of 27111

I know Kim, but I don't think they can avoid it unless they resume trials and dispute the odd patent........

kimoldfield - 15 Jan 2008 11:10 - 25543 of 27111

Well, I'm not too worried really, they have been advertsing vacancies for a General Manager RF Applications and a Technical Services Manager - BioPlastics for ages; if they offered salaries of 4m for each, SEO would soon be back on track!

hangon - 15 Jan 2008 11:19 - 25544 of 27111

tweenie et al.
You could be right, - but this Co has long been a serial disapointer, so you have to look at the hierachy at the top - to find the common problem over the years.
They had a new Chief over a year ago and the Market has given him enough time to start getting to grips with the deep-rooted problems, (or so they would appear).

Could it be that no-one wants their products at any price?
I suspect the price is the sticking point: When established players are generating profits they can squeeze their Buyers, maybe suggesting that SEO is an untried supplier, likley to go short due to lack of capacity - these are real fears for any volume-user.

Could it be that they don't know how to sell?- bearing in mind that any good salesman want to represent a go-go company so he can expand his empire/bonus/value etc..?
I suspect this could be their root problem: believing that a "better mousetrap" will sell itself in huge numbers, but the reality is, very few are needed and folk that have them are quite happy with their performance! A good salesman is needed to generate that Order sheet!

Unfortunately any Good Staff soon finds this is a wasteral co ( oops!), with little chance they will bag a big order, let alone corner the market. So they leave and the Co. continues along a poor-slope - witness the sp graph - a CON solidation won't do much good either, - as I suspect folk would be suspicious.

Does anyone remember ( Zzzz), when this was - 28p? - Ho! Ho! Ho!

kimoldfield - 15 Jan 2008 11:32 - 25545 of 27111

Hangon, I agree that price will probably have been a big factor to anyone looking at SEO's products but also, I think, efficiency. I know someone who was very, very interested in purchasing a Greenseal machine, until he found out the price, and more importantly, the speed at which it could turn out the end product. SEO were "surprised" when he told them it was too slow and "aware that other machines could work faster" - sound somewhat inefficient to you?! What the hell were they thinking??! That their precious machine would be chosen above all others no matter what the defects? What a load of to**ers! It really annoys me that they had/have some really good products but for some weird reason they seem unwilling to get/incapable of getting, the proper expertise to launch them.

greekman - 15 Jan 2008 11:42 - 25546 of 27111

Another problem may be how potential customers look at the company and products.
It must make these potential customers wonder why there have been so many product problems over the years whilst SEO's competitors have not just drew level but passed them on what looked to be a home straight.
They will no doubt also look at how the company would follow up/progress from an initial sale.
To take it to basics, if you are looking for a product that is made/sold by several manufactures/retailers. Do you buy from the retailer that has high sales or go to the one that has none. Human nature defines that you question why no one is buying, whereas you would tend to feel that many sales instill confidence.
If you were a potential buyer looking into Stanelco's last few years, would you have the confidence to buy.
I think Hangon hits the nail on the head when he states, "they are an untried supplier".
As has recently been mentioned, perhaps pricings are too high. To be in Stanelco's position, to generate sales I would suggest that there would have to be some serious undercutting of item pricing to illicit interest.
The above may be simplifying the situation too much, but the analogy can be argued.
All imho of course.

stockdog - 15 Jan 2008 12:14 - 25547 of 27111

I reckon the best value this company has is as a reverse takeover target for a real business. It's little more than a cash shell with a useful 8m on board and a cheap way to a full listing for some budding entrepreneurs who can boot out the old management and close down all operations except the immediate post-war RF applications - some manufacturing renaissance business that would suit the premises too maybe.

Talking of salemanship, doesn't the chairman have a duty to shareholders to pursue this avenue with full vigour?

kimoldfield - 15 Jan 2008 12:49 - 25548 of 27111

Don't mention vigour SD, SEO will think it must be some kind of new bioplastic and spend 8m researching it!!
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