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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack - 02 Jun 2013 11:13 - 25594 of 81564

Russia supports Syria because they make money from arms, but more importantly that is their only sphere of influence the in the ME. Increasingly, Russia is finding that countries are not interested in their help. If China are supporting Assad then I would guess it is for similar reasons as Russia.

This the BBBC's take on Russia/Syria

Foreign policy analysts usually tend to explain Moscow's inflexible stance on Syria by evoking arms sales to Damascus (Bashar al-Assad's regime is said to have placed orders for Russian hardware to the tune of $3.5bn) and the Russian naval station in the Syrian port of Tartous.

But this alone does not account for Russia's seeming indifference to the adverse effect that its international advocacy of the Assad government has on its relations with the United States, the European Union and the majority of the Arab states.

The explanation has a lot to do with Russia's domestic policies and the obsessions of the Russian political class.

By standing up for Damascus, the Kremlin is telling the world that neither the UN, nor any other body or group of countries has the right to decide who should or should not govern a sovereign state.

If one looks at the Syrian crisis from this angle, many of Moscow's previously inexplicable actions take on a new, clearer meaning.

Ever since the fall of Slobodan Milosevic in 2000, but especially after the 2004 "Orange Revolution" in Ukraine, the Russian leadership has been obsessed with the idea of America and the EU engineering the overthrow of governments that, for whatever reason, they find unsuitable.

President Vladimir Putin and his team seem to be convinced that something like that could happen to Russia.

Russia's political class never accepted concepts like "responsibility to protect", which aim to limit the ability of authoritarian governments to repress their own people.

Sovereignty, to the Russian leadership, means an unlimited licence for governments to do as they please within their national borders.

There is more here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18462813

cynic - 02 Jun 2013 11:48 - 25595 of 81564

many thanks Hays - an interesting read indeed
of course none of the supporters of either side in these conflicts is ever working for altruistic or even humanitarian reasons - any more than the crusades had much or even anything to do with freeing jerusalem from the muslims for religious reasons

niceonecyril - 02 Jun 2013 12:13 - 25596 of 81564

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcEtlLOyBxs

TANKER - 02 Jun 2013 13:54 - 25597 of 81564

has I have said many times the uk is now CESSPIT OF CORRUPTION
ever MP should now resign and call an election and have a fresh start
more MPS scandals to come out they are all at some form of scam .
if you are a MP you should work has a MP not making money for asking questions
or giving out insider info and being paid to do it
it is a scandal and corruption ..

and still a big scandal to come out this week big time

cynic - 02 Jun 2013 14:28 - 25598 of 81564

what about your 2 (or is it 3?) labour pals in house of lords, or have you managed to miss that little story?

if ukip had any let alone a decent number of mps, it is a racing certainty that much muck would be uncovered about them too
it's a fact of life, that where's there's money to be made or advantage to be gained by the offering of same, there'll be takers of all hues

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and in the interim, if we can shut up the village idiot for long enough, a purely hypothetical question .....

if there was a mayoral election tomorrow between boris and ken, for whom would you cast your vote?

Haystack - 02 Jun 2013 14:31 - 25599 of 81564

Boris

Labour may put up Eddie Izzard as candidate for mayor next time. Ken has said he has retired. Boris is getting more and more popular.

Fred1new - 02 Jun 2013 19:06 - 25600 of 81564



Simply put.

Even Manuel should understand.

Not sure about the sleepwalker.

goldfinger - 02 Jun 2013 19:28 - 25601 of 81564

GENTS...... simple question..........do you beleive coppers
Should get a FULL pension after 30 years 0f service.????

Always aswel move onto a new full time job with a full pension at age 48.......Pathetic.

My money better spent on unemployed,

Fred1new - 02 Jun 2013 20:14 - 25602 of 81564

Yes, if it due to them under the contract they signed when entering their employment.

But, the contract and rights of the contracts for new members should be renegotiated.

Life expectancy is different and so are is the working environment.


I think the MPs contracts and pensions should also be renegotiated.

3 monkies - 02 Jun 2013 20:23 - 25603 of 81564

The majority retire at 50yrs of age and they pay into their pension - are you aware of that? They normally do 30yrs service but things may have changed in the last 13 yrs.

3 monkies - 02 Jun 2013 20:27 - 25604 of 81564

Oh! by the way if they move into another full time job then they are heavily taxed just like anyone else - I always say don't criticise what someone else has or does or has done, because everyone has the opportunity to do the like wise if they so wish.

cynic - 02 Jun 2013 20:28 - 25605 of 81564

well said 3m!

Fred1new - 02 Jun 2013 22:02 - 25606 of 81564

I wanted to grow 4 inches taller.

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Some, work in heavy industry or manual jobs for 45 years and then retire on much lower pensions.

In the UK are taxes heavy for what they provide, even if it is a police officer or an ambulance if you are in need one.

Priorities!

cynic - 02 Jun 2013 22:06 - 25607 of 81564

no fred - you just need to get off your high horse

Fred1new - 02 Jun 2013 22:32 - 25608 of 81564

Don't want to.

I enjoy riding you.

8-)

Chris Carson - 02 Jun 2013 22:43 - 25609 of 81564

All down to career choice no?

As a labourer you are less likely to be murdered, assaulted, stabbed, spat on, run over, be a political pawn controlling riots in a crash helmet, body armour and carrying a plastic shield, work three shifts morning, nights and afternoons with short change overs. If called upon be a midwife, administer first aid, jump in the sea, river, canal to rescue anyone in difficulty. Inform next of kin of the death of their loved ones. Deal generally with the scum of the earth purporting to be human beings etc etc etc. Great job!

cynic - 03 Jun 2013 06:36 - 25610 of 81564

fred - please use ky and wear a condom (over your head!)

Fred1new - 03 Jun 2013 09:11 - 25611 of 81564

Cynic,

That might give you pleasure, but a little like Dreamer, you seem to me to be developing a fetish.

But, I suppose it is down to what gives you pleasure.

aldwickk - 03 Jun 2013 10:05 - 25612 of 81564

Cynic

If he does that he won't be able to get any air into his Welsh wind bag's

Haystack - 03 Jun 2013 10:20 - 25613 of 81564

Fred is a national treasure and therefore should be kept in an air tight box.
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