cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
cynic
- 15 Sep 2008 11:15
- 2561 of 21973
Falco .... gold all over the shop ...... opened +$3 then shot up to +16 and now back to +7!
cynic
- 15 Sep 2008 11:50
- 2562 of 21973
now watching FTSE with a view to closing short and maybe even going long as fall possibly or even probably overdone
further to go (below 11000) for Dow before looking to close
Strawbs
- 15 Sep 2008 11:52
- 2563 of 21973
I'm still backing a collapse to 4300 (good support) and a finish to the month around 4700...... Well. That's what I've picked for the "FTSE 2008" thread anyway..... :-)
In my opinion.
Strawbs.
cynic
- 15 Sep 2008 12:10
- 2564 of 21973
it won't be in a straight line even if you are correct
Strawbs
- 15 Sep 2008 12:22
- 2565 of 21973
:-) True. It's probably a bit opptomistic anyway for a single month! It just looked like good support on the chart to me, so if the market continues trending downwards (over whatever time period) I would expect some good support at that level. I still wouldn't rule out 3500 or lower over time though. Assuming of course the credit crunch continues to play out badly. If you look at the 10 year chart, there's a lot of symetry to the moves. Looks like different topping formations, but otherwise similar. As Twain said, "History never repeats itself, but it often rhymes".
In my opinion.
Strawbs.
HARRYCAT
- 15 Sep 2008 12:25
- 2566 of 21973
DOW now -370.
How do you guys know what will happen at the open?
Presumably if the decline continues it will drag the FTSE further down???
cynic
- 15 Sep 2008 12:38
- 2567 of 21973
if i KNEW i would have retired long ago!
have actually taken profit in both FTSE and Dow and have gone long FTSE with sensible stop
Falcothou
- 15 Sep 2008 13:03
- 2568 of 21973
The Fed will be wrestling with the kitchen sink again. Call me suspicious but I think Barclay's pretence of buying Lehman's was more about showing a display of strength and having something in reserve than any serious desire to buy it. Gold seems strangely tied at the waist to crude
stroreysj
- 15 Sep 2008 13:08
- 2569 of 21973
on a separate subject if a bank goes down and the governement does not step in do depositors loose all of their money ? Although im not sure I think they do so have spread my hard earned cash between 3 of them
dealerdear
- 15 Sep 2008 13:26
- 2570 of 21973
think you're guaranteed the first 35000 or 70000 if a couple
stroreysj
- 15 Sep 2008 13:30
- 2571 of 21973
thanks dealerdear. I thought it was a token effort like you mention. Fingers crossed they stay solvent. I think we will dodge the bullet on this one but if AIG have their backs against the wall dod knows what poo will hit the fan
cynic
- 15 Sep 2008 13:32
- 2572 of 21973
US has different rules from (NOT "to"!) UK, so not sure ..... also, as Lehman's were, I think, an investment bank, rather than a retail bank, a great many things may be different
Falcothou
- 15 Sep 2008 13:44
- 2573 of 21973
If things do go very seriously pear shaped it could be that some sb/cfd companies implode which is a bit scary! I reckon the Fed is shorting the crap out of oil!
cynic
- 15 Sep 2008 13:47
- 2574 of 21973
sb/cfd companies should not be affected as they make their profits from their clients trading and rarely get exposed themselves - i think! ..... IG's recent results saeem to bear this out
Falcothou
- 15 Sep 2008 13:56
- 2575 of 21973
As I understand it some of them don't hedge comprehensively and a few have a handful of dominant clients that can bring down the house as their margin lunges off the chimney, though in the other hand they should benefit from volatility and volume
cynic
- 15 Sep 2008 14:45
- 2576 of 21973
fingers crossed .... called indices well so far today
Falcothou
- 15 Sep 2008 15:30
- 2577 of 21973
Dow has risen since open but looking undecided. Thry are grilling Bank of America on acquisition
Falcothou
- 15 Sep 2008 18:54
- 2578 of 21973
Morgan stanley and goldman left who is going to sit on the last chair when the music stops
spitfire43
- 15 Sep 2008 19:15
- 2579 of 21973
Could say the same for Bradford & Bingley and HBOS,
BB. Takeover? Like Merrill Lynch
HBOS ????? I wouldn't like to guess!
Falcothou
- 15 Sep 2008 19:28
- 2580 of 21973
All things considered the market has not yet sold off much more than when the futures opened last night. There is still 90 mins left of course