Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

FACT I phoned my doctors to see my doctor on the 30th may they gave me an appointment for the 17th june so when I said do not bother I will go to A@E they told me to come at 2.30pm on the 31st may

Quite right too. They obviously thought it was an emergency if you were going to A&E as and gave you a quicker appointment. If it wasn't emergency then you get a longer wait.

and of course that is exactly why A+E gets cluttered up by idiots with an ingrown toenail or even lesser "ailments"

its cluttered up with immigrants . fact not fiction who have paid fcuk all in to the system and if you do not think that is correct get off your backside and take a look

Mosque burned down last night in Muswell Hill and EDL sprayed on the walls.

but therefore unlikely to have been set by EDL at all

It's absolutely ludicrous to have to wait for 2 weeks or more to see your GP.
In some respects TANKER is correct, I recall years ago when illegal immigrants being held subject to their deportation, were having all manner of ailments treated on the NHS prior to them being deported.
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so T-bonehead, when was the last time you actually worked in A+E? ..... if you ever had, you'ld understand why pathetic individuals with even more pathetic ailments are a total hindrance and nuisance to the smooth running of such departments

you should be ashamed of yourself - fat chance!

Maybe just EDL supporters

not necessarily even them .... almost if not more likely to be just a bunch of local ner'er-do-wells who thought it would be "jolly sport"

The mosque is in the middle of a council estate. It is a community centre for Somalis. Technically it is in Muswell Hill as a postal district, but really only just off the North Circular and in Barnet, whereas Muswell is in Haringey.

very politely - and your point is?

This is now how the Huffington Post and a few other news outlets are reporting it

Muswell Hill Mosque Set On Fire In Suspected EDL Attack

The reason A@E is going to the wall is because like George says above a lot of people are having to wait up to 2 weeks to see their doctor.

You are

1. either cured

OR

2.dead

before you would see him.

So people divert and go to the A&E instead.

Do immigrants play a part in this? yes certainly if immigration numbers are going up it stands that your local GP has a far bigger patient list.

Should GPs work longer hours.......NO.

A tired doctor is a dangerous doctor.

Answer........given we cant kick legal immigrants out like tanker wants we need more doctors at GP surgerys.

PMs questions today ........Camoron 2 Milliband 8

Camoron has to realise he will get his chance (if hes still in office)in 2 years time to ask questions rather than answer them. On the odd question he does answer he uses dodgy statistics and outright lies.

Its time John Burko stopped his deflection tactics because as it stands now PMs questions is just a farce.

sticky - i'm not sure you're right about GPs not working longer ...... there was certainly a good argument for retaining the "old system" where junior docs and interns acquired a far greater knowledge and understanding - trade-off was some pretty horrific hours

it is also not so long ago that local surgeries were open at weekends, admittedly on skeleton (dead?) staff ...... that has now been scrapped (i think several years ago) with obvious consequences

there were also local (cottage) hospitals which have also pretty much disappeared, though i would accept that they were probably totally uneconomic

I marked at around Cameron 100 Miliband -10

Having GPs work longer and longer hours is not the answer.

I admit having ( a few as customers at the family accountancy business) they get away with murder with extra allowance for this that and the other but working longer no.

Like I said any tired doctor is a very dangerous doctor, would you want a junior doctor operating on you at say 3am when hed put in 120 hours already that week.

I know I wouldnt. Just takes a slip of the hand bud and your a goner, I liken it to a cricket batsman who has just scored a big innings and is mentaly tired.

Sooner rather than later hes going to make a mistake.

We need more doctors and a better service that more doctors would provide, and would cut back on A@E.

"... would you want a junior doctor operating on you at say 3am when hed put in 120 hours already that week"

I agree, Fishfinger.

I'd much prefer to have a pukka surgeon do the job.