goldfinger
- 18 Jun 2008 11:04
- 2573 of 3050
15% to 17% dilution says this is not such a good deal.
heres my original post on sol ipo on nyse.....
Total of $119 million underwritten, and not $130 million, see post above.
and as for trading at a huge discount, throw in the dilution of
bonds 10%
employee scheme 7%
and now this defunked IPO 17% and the total prospective dilution is
a grand total of 34%.
Dont have to tell you how this will now affect the P/E ratio going forward.
Watching initial reaction on the Dow.ENDS
now we add in a further 17% for this share issue and we have a potential grand total 51% potential dilution.
yes 51%.
EPS diluted, P/E forecast far higher than the one used by analysts promoting this stock and my calcs show its trading at a premium to peers within the industry.
Add in the over supply situation of wafers within the industry and the fact that sola STILL does not generate positive operational cash and the story here does not look so good as first thought.
Watching with interest.
sivad
- 18 Jun 2008 11:15
- 2574 of 3050
Seems a good deal and after disgestion and the expected fall due to dilution worries slao will be flying north again.
the Yanks just love this stock if you read the US bb's.
They love to trade on ups and downs and with Sola you have as they say got the real deal.
cynic
- 18 Jun 2008 12:00
- 2575 of 3050
if Dow tumbles further, which is very much on the cards, then SOLA will be whacked ...... regardless, i would expect to see SOLA ADRs (aka SOL in NY) trading at $19.00 or less within a couple of weeks, and goodness knows how low ($15.00?) if Dow really turns sick
sivad
- 18 Jun 2008 12:51
- 2576 of 3050
If the Dow tumbles on oil price fears cynic than this will benefit Sola-stay long.
cynic
- 18 Jun 2008 13:16
- 2577 of 3050
no thanks! ..... took my profits yesterday and am happy to stay neutral with a possible view to short ...... Dow is likley to tumble, but not necessarily because of continued rise in oil (Nymex) ..... imo, Nymex level is now very bubble-like, but i thought that $5.00 or so lower!
R88AVE
- 18 Jun 2008 21:48
- 2578 of 3050
Strong finish in US up 3.5% despite the tumble on DOW. The volume traded 8m+
cynic
- 24 Jun 2008 08:43
- 2579 of 3050
looks strongly as though the managed support has been withdrawn now that the second offering has been successfully launched.
to short or not to short? ...... probably shall, even though away on hol
did so at 514.5
cynic
- 26 Jun 2008 13:28
- 2580 of 3050
my only little glimmer of sunshire today in a seriously bleak market
cynic
- 26 Jun 2008 17:53
- 2581 of 3050
falling like a brick in NY (so are most stocks) ..... currently down $1.50 at $17.57, though not sure where it was at London close, but certainly not this low
Greyhound
- 27 Jun 2008 08:23
- 2582 of 3050
Might be good time to have another long punt. Volatility all round but the 450s could well hold.
cynic
- 30 Jun 2008 20:47
- 2583 of 3050
set to head south again tomorrow as looking weak towards close in NY
hlyeo98
- 02 Jul 2008 08:40
- 2584 of 3050
The graph is more obvious now...shorting from 380p.
hlyeo98
- 02 Jul 2008 21:39
- 2585 of 3050
Very quiet here in SOLA today. Another south day tomorrow.
goldfinger
- 03 Jul 2008 01:22
- 2586 of 3050
Corker of a short.
Looks like 310p next support level to take out.
Just using a trailing stop loss. Easy money, I just knew this one would suffer going into the summer months.
hlyeo98
- 08 Jul 2008 08:10
- 2587 of 3050
324p now...looks like 310p support is unlikely to hold up
dealerdear
- 08 Jul 2008 08:12
- 2588 of 3050
when it gets back to 200p, I'll buy
cynic
- 08 Jul 2008 08:18
- 2589 of 3050
took profit yesterday, but unable to reopen short this morning
dealerdear
- 08 Jul 2008 08:22
- 2590 of 3050
cynic.
Are shorts becoming more difficult and more expensive to get?
cynic
- 08 Jul 2008 08:34
- 2591 of 3050
you need a counterpart to lend you the stock and also IG, through whom i deal, are up to their internally imposed limit
dealerdear
- 08 Jul 2008 08:39
- 2592 of 3050
which makes me wonder if it is more and more difficult to short, is this a sign the market has nearly bottomed as people switch to going long?
Just a thought based on little knowledge!