Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

RONALDO spotted outside Old Trafford.

Coincidence his villa is up for sale????

Cant stand Mourhinio.

New CEO at UTD,wants to make a big first impression.

Could all be speculation but I know for a fact UTD placed a clause in his contract on sale to R Madrid which said they had first refusal.

Wonder if cyners has gone off sulking?.

Hays,

I thought your P 25785 was and advert for the right wing of the tory party.

You know the bunch I mean.


The ones who are splitting off to join tinker and associates.

I see Miliband is heading to the right in order to get elected

In a speech today, "He said Labour, if elected, would introduce a cap on "structural spending" - such as housing benefit and disability allowances".

Surely not, (tongue in cheek) but that's Tory policy, Millipede has been against these Tory party measures for 3 years now, isn't this what Fred calls U turns?
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It seems being elected is their target rather than doing good for the country.
UKIP has a better chance, IMO

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I would call Cameron pragmatism.

But, to reverse a policy already implemented is costly.

Also, some of what he has accepte and suggested with the mess this government is creating will be necessary.

Modification of the policy is sensible.

But, without thinking about it too much, I cannot see the problem with universal benefits and the excesses prune back by direct taxation at different levels.#

It is disposable income differentials which are problematic.

Simplification would be a sensible cost cutting action.


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Other than Hays and Manuel on this board use their bus passes.

The "free travel" probably brings life to the town centres and stimulates local economies and produces more taxable income that is lost in fares.

UKIP has no chance. They are a classic protest party. They would need 30% plus before they got a few MPs. The demographics are against them. There are areas that are Labour, Liberal and Conservative heartlands. It only leaves the marginals plus a few others to fight for. UKIP will certainly make an impact on the election, but they have no chance of winning, being the opposition or even being the third party. It is the SDP all over again.

I use my free travel pass all the time. I am about to use it for bus and tube.

It is always the same with Labour. They bitch about The Conservative policies, say they are draconian and mean and then never repeal any of them when in office. How many union laws did Labour repeal? They were all measures that Labour wished they could implement without getting a slapping from the unions and lefties in their party. Labour are bound by dogma and have to appeal to the poorest most uneducated sections of the population to have a chance of being elected. They thrive on the ignorance of their supporters.

The Blairites are now whispering in Milibands ear telling him that traditional Labour policies won't get them elected. As said above their target is only getting elected.

Haystack - 06 Jun 2013 14:51 - 25798 of 25798

Labour are bound by dogma and have to appeal to the poorest most uneducated sections of the population to have a chance of being elected. They thrive on the ignorance of their supporters.................ends

EARLIER...

Haystack - 06 Jun 2013 10:33 - 25781 of 25798

Tanker is easily the most abusive poster on here. Not just personally, but whole swathes of society such as Muslims, eastern Europeans.......ends

I know who I think is the most abusive and ignorant poster on here and it isnt Tanker.

Reason why I filtered him because he was calling the poor disabled and sick of this country scumsters or words to that effect.

I hope others can see through him.

Fred ----''But, to reverse a policy already implemented is costly''.---I couldn't agree more, we are all bearing the cost of Labour's spending.
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New Superman Movie Will Have The Most Commercialization Ever: 100 Marketing Tie-Ins

If you like product placement in your movies, then you're going to love "Man of Steel," the new Superman movie. Ad Age reports that 100 companies have paid a combined $160 million for the rights to do promotional tie-ins.
It's possibly the biggest ever number of marketers attached to a single movie. Ad Age says:

With 100 partners, “Man of Steel” appears to have topped Universal Studios' animated film “The Lorax,” released in March 2012. It had a reported 70 promotional partners.

no, cyners has been in london all day, since you were clearly concerned!

Why what you been doing, perving over all the swedish female tourists? Weekly annual holiday.

I am in London as well. I didn't see you cyners!

Swedish tourists

i was in portobello and then down to bond street and savile row ...... and yes, pervs paradise indeed :-)

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btw, am now also short dow, but shall almost certainly close that tonight ..... i would have thought odds on a strong finish to the week

You did look a bit short in that photo.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/06/welfare-speech-ed-miliband-credible-alternative
Any serious assessment of Ed Miliband's extremely important speech on welfare spending on Thursday morning needs to start with a reality check. That reality check can be found in two recent YouGov polls. One shows the Conservatives leading Labour by four points on ability to handle the economy. The other is a damning verdict on the Labour leader himself, with large majorities believing Miliband ineffective, unclear about what he stands for, and not up to the job of prime minister.

And there's another thing that doesn't help the Labour leader much either. For most of the last two years, political friend and foe have muttered noisily about Miliband's need to lay out a credible economic account of Labour's governing past and governing future. Now that he is about to do so in a speech in London's East End, he is already being denounced for his pains. And denounced not just on the right, where you would expect it – though David Cameron yesterday was quick to mock the speech's well-trailed commitment not to restore universal child benefit. On the wider left, and in parts of his own party, many are quick to complain that Labour's fiscal caution this week is a betrayal of much they hold dear.

All this adds up to a salutary reminder that Miliband still has a mountain to climb in translating Labour's consistent but not massive opinion poll lead into something more ironclad and irresistible as 2015 nears. A reminder too that he is sailing into a strong political wind when he delivers his speech on Thursday morning. Unless he is very successful, Miliband may find that this significant speech has already been framed by his enemies as the work either of a flip-flopper or of someone who is imprisoned by New Labour neoliberalism. Neither of these silly charges is in fact true. But that doesn't mean they won't get a fair amount of purchase. Miliband is running the risk of doing the right thing while gaining no political reward for it.

I use my free travel pass all the time. I am about to use it for bus and tube.

I hope as a member of we are all in it together you put your cost of fares into the “we are all in it together charity box”.

But somehow I doubt it.


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I couldn't agree more, we are all bearing the cost of Labour's spending.
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Do you mean labour had to pay for the Con party purloining of the Nations Silver and avoiding repairing the infrastructure, while at the same time paying tax benefits to the idle rich on holidays in the Cayman Isles.
Again this bunch of Etonian school boys repeat their stupidity and are strangling the economy.
Due to the incompetence, banks aren’t lending, businesses can’t borrow and the businesses with money aren’t investing.

They don’t trust this disastrous government
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With the rate of U-turns this government are making don’t have a coronary to-night, as there may not be an A and E or an ambulance for you.

PS. I know the U-turn which Cameron made yesterday, but haven’t read to-day’s yet.
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