Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I have watched Politics of the UK for 50+ years and think this government under the main influence of the present tories as well as the most incompetent is the most blatantly corrupt I have witnessed.

I wonder whether this is due to a its appearance of being of an "inbred culture".

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Tim Yeo facing committee coaching claim

Ross Hawkins says Tim Yeo "intends to contest these allegations very vigorously indeed"Continue reading the main story


Government 'will reform lobbying'


Conservative MP Tim Yeo is facing allegations that he used his position as chair of the Commons Energy and Climate Change Committee to help a private company influence Parliament.

Sunday Times investigators secretly filmed the former environment minister.

He told them he coached the boss of a firm - owned by a company that was paying the MP - on how to give evidence to the committee, the paper alleges.

Mr Yeo denies this and says he intends to contest all the allegations.

These new rules are unfair


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22833136

What you doing back?.. just been released I assume.

BNP leader Nick Griffin has sparked anger on Twitter by posting a series of offensive messages about Nelson Mandela.

Good wishes for the ailing former South African leader have poured in from around the world, as the 94-year-old receives treatment for a lung infection.

But Griffin, the MEP for the North West, faced a storm of criticism after his messages:

"Saint #nelsonmandela on last legs it seems. Make sure to avoid BBC when the murdering old terrorist croaks. It'll be nauseating," he wrote.

He added: "'Statesmen' must be judged on results not rhetoric. Before Mandela, South Africa was safe economic powerhouse. Now crime ridden basket case."

A BNP spokesman told The Guardian the tweets were genuine.

Griffin is a really nasty piece of work. jmop

Nelson Mandela's favourite poem, he read this constantly during his time in prison;

Invictus

Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll.
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.


William Ernest Henley

Griffin is a really nasty piece of work. jmop ...... quite so, and long may he continue to paste in similar vein as it plays into the hands of "normal" society

A classic case of shooting one self in the foot

Griffin has to be seen to be as anti as possible, because those that support him are as nasty as he is and wants someone to lead them like them.
What a shitty world we live in when someone as vile as him gets coverage.

Some of the Cons right wing and UKIP are just as nasty, but maybe they choose their words a little more carefully.

But the con leadership are fermenting the environment in which such can fester.

fred - you really do write such total rubbish at times, even if it is only for effect and (probably) to provoke hays

Cyns,

Better than writing rubbish all the time.

But, it does seem you rise to the same bait as hays.

(Size 9 hook would do.)

But it is nice to see Hays rushing to the defence of the indefensible.

Do you want to hand the keys back to the people who crashed the car. Even worse it’s clear that Labour doesn’t even realise that it did crash the car.

Hays,

I don't think the present cons are doing better.

U-turns in one way streets, not watching the lights, reversing the "economy" at high speed and running out of fuel. Blaming the pedestrians for being on the pavement when they knock them down.


The government which will be remembered for corruption and tax avoidance, failure to act on Leveson and inability to govern.

This wasn't the government of yesterday's men, but the government of non-entities.

What a crew!
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Who are they going to blame next!

Corruption: Surely the last government were more corrupt than any other in the modern age. If I remember correctly, the number of Labour MPs and peers caught with their hands in the till for expenses fiddling and false accounting almost ran into double figures.

Tax avoidance: If it's legal, bring it on!

Leveson: The News International phone-hacking scandal occurred between 2005 and 2007 under a different watch. Leveson was a total waste of money that nobody really gave a sh!t about. But, for whatever reason, Cameron felt obliged to go through the motions. Are people really that thick that they think anything is going to change?

The economy: Looks like it's in pretty good shape to me. What's everyone moaning about?

The U-turns: A simple consequence of a coalition government. That's what the people voted for, so they shouldn't expect anything less. We live in a democracy - if people want cast iron rule, maybe they should bugger off to Zimbabwe.

Europe: It's just a shame that it'll take a few more years till we can get out. Hey ho.

hilary - fred doesn't actually believe in anything or any party as he thinks it beneath him to vote .... his posts are almost exclusively for pretentious effect and little more

more specifically, with regard to tax avoidance. you're absolutely right, much as its excesses tend to stick in the throat ..... tax collection has never been a moral issue, so if the gov't of any hue does not like the way such schemes are used, then change the rules

It depends on your morality.

Tax rules are beginning to change.

It will be interesting to see the future checks on the flow of "cash" in an out of the country.

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Cameron is a motion.

For Cynic,

You never know Hague may be checking your accounts.

Another 2 point increased gain for Labour........

electionista ‏@electionista 1h
UK - YouGov/Sun: CON 28%, LAB 39%, LDEM 11%, UKIP 15%

I see it predicts UKIP as not doing too well. At 15%, that's no MPs.