Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Griffin is a really nasty piece of work. jmop ...... quite so, and long may he continue to paste in similar vein as it plays into the hands of "normal" society

A classic case of shooting one self in the foot

Griffin has to be seen to be as anti as possible, because those that support him are as nasty as he is and wants someone to lead them like them.
What a shitty world we live in when someone as vile as him gets coverage.

Some of the Cons right wing and UKIP are just as nasty, but maybe they choose their words a little more carefully.

But the con leadership are fermenting the environment in which such can fester.

fred - you really do write such total rubbish at times, even if it is only for effect and (probably) to provoke hays

Cyns,

Better than writing rubbish all the time.

But, it does seem you rise to the same bait as hays.

(Size 9 hook would do.)

But it is nice to see Hays rushing to the defence of the indefensible.

Do you want to hand the keys back to the people who crashed the car. Even worse it’s clear that Labour doesn’t even realise that it did crash the car.

Hays,

I don't think the present cons are doing better.

U-turns in one way streets, not watching the lights, reversing the "economy" at high speed and running out of fuel. Blaming the pedestrians for being on the pavement when they knock them down.


The government which will be remembered for corruption and tax avoidance, failure to act on Leveson and inability to govern.

This wasn't the government of yesterday's men, but the government of non-entities.

What a crew!
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Who are they going to blame next!

Corruption: Surely the last government were more corrupt than any other in the modern age. If I remember correctly, the number of Labour MPs and peers caught with their hands in the till for expenses fiddling and false accounting almost ran into double figures.

Tax avoidance: If it's legal, bring it on!

Leveson: The News International phone-hacking scandal occurred between 2005 and 2007 under a different watch. Leveson was a total waste of money that nobody really gave a sh!t about. But, for whatever reason, Cameron felt obliged to go through the motions. Are people really that thick that they think anything is going to change?

The economy: Looks like it's in pretty good shape to me. What's everyone moaning about?

The U-turns: A simple consequence of a coalition government. That's what the people voted for, so they shouldn't expect anything less. We live in a democracy - if people want cast iron rule, maybe they should bugger off to Zimbabwe.

Europe: It's just a shame that it'll take a few more years till we can get out. Hey ho.

hilary - fred doesn't actually believe in anything or any party as he thinks it beneath him to vote .... his posts are almost exclusively for pretentious effect and little more

more specifically, with regard to tax avoidance. you're absolutely right, much as its excesses tend to stick in the throat ..... tax collection has never been a moral issue, so if the gov't of any hue does not like the way such schemes are used, then change the rules

It depends on your morality.

Tax rules are beginning to change.

It will be interesting to see the future checks on the flow of "cash" in an out of the country.

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Cameron is a motion.

For Cynic,

You never know Hague may be checking your accounts.

Another 2 point increased gain for Labour........

electionista ‏@electionista 1h
UK - YouGov/Sun: CON 28%, LAB 39%, LDEM 11%, UKIP 15%

I see it predicts UKIP as not doing too well. At 15%, that's no MPs.

fred - since when did any tax law have a morality clause attaching, whether related to paying same or getting allowances? ..... sorry, but you cannot mix legality and morality ...... you can CHOOSE to pay more tax than you have to, by failing to take any legal avoidance measures, or you can CHOOSE to pay only the tax to which you are legally obligated ..... render unto Caesar etc etc

I think by the time of election the order changes to LAB, UKIP, CON, LDEM

Cameron should stimulate the economy by spending on infrastructure.

The order changes to CON,LAB,LDEM,...............UKIP

Hes more interested in history and wants to set some personal landmarks for himself (before being kicked out) like being the PM who legalised gay marriage and the PM who defied all and spent money on Foreign Aid whilst at the same time robbing the poor and disabled off his own country.

One of the things that stops us charging the likes of Google, Amazon, Starbucks corporation tax on specific UK earning is membership of the EU. Outside the EU we can charge more corporation tax. The US for instance charges people on their worldwide earnings if they are US citizens no matter where they live.