Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

PS not talking about over 21s either, under 21s.

Eating very nice crusty roll at Victoria stn. Just dropped one son at Gatwick Express for trip to Barbados on a cricket tour for his university. It is 30C there at the moment.

it'll be a damn sight hotter in dubai/saudi! .... just hope it's not too humid ..... saudi has also been having massive sandstorms that have caused offshore rigs to be shutdown

PMQs Milliband 9 Camoron 1

Camoron once again lost his cool under the pressure placed upon him by Milliband.The crimson tide once again returned.

He really does need some type of training /counseling in public speaking.

He trys to use his back benchers to beat Milliband but anyone with their head screwed on can see its a defensive mechanism.

Bit like Cyners calling for hays help when TANKER was rambling on.

I deducted a point from Miliband as I reckon hes not attacking the Lib Dems enough in order to break up the coalition and leave the Tories more abandoned and at the mercy of UKIP.

Ive sent Rachel Reeves a peronal tweet and asked her to get this point over to Milliband. A bit of playing dirty is required.

now that really is a barefaced lie!
i have never ever ever asked for hay's help in anything, nor from anyone else on this site

Cameron 50 Milipeed -10

Unemployment down. Record numbers in employment. Mili drowning as usual

more sensibly and genuinely encouraging -
i was very pleased to hear this morning that a rig builder in aberdeen (i suspect) already had 85 apprentices on his books and expected to increase that to 100 before year-end

further, my one-man-band plumber now has an apprentice and expects to take on a new on in the new year

No good bragging about better employment figures when those in work are facing a huge fall in living stndards and fears they may lose their part part-time jobs. Yes Ive posted that right part part-time jobs.

Newsnight last night with the three experts on came to the conclusion their was slight green shoots of recovery but of the wrong kind ie, a consumer/mortgage based bubble forming. (Giddeon as usual at fault)

With Carney due to start in the near future and inflation bound to rise along with interest rates I wouldnt have thought this was a good time for tories to be patting themselves on the back.

From the Gruaniad - Ukip support falls back but main parties remain weak on economy

Ukip has fallen back from the giddying heights it reached after May's council elections, although the party remains a force to be reckoned with – as does the anti-political mood it represents.

That is the message of a new Guardian/ICM poll, which shows that Ukip has slipped back by a substantial six points from last month's record-breaking level of support – leaving it on 12%.

The poll shows that Labour is ahead on 36% (up two on the month) and the Conservatives on 29% (up one).

sticky - you may care to comment on my post 26000

That Lib Dem figure Skinny looks too high.

Not in line with other polls.

Others looks high aswel.

so sticky, as you declined to comment on my post, i assume it would undermine your angle to admit that taking on and increasing apprentices - almost unknown only a little while back - is a genuine indication of an upturn in employment

Cyners define an apprenticeship in the 2 examples you have given.

By the way not your thoughts the companys, what and how many years do they cover, who funds them?.

Please lets have some detail before we start celebrating.

And if you can actualy find the conditions of the contract aswel please.Cheers.

i didn't ask for any celebration and nor was i asking for any applause ..... i merely commented on stuff that i actually know first hand

the rig builder was on BBC1 Breakfast this morning and the other chap is my local plumber who is currently doing some work for me.

the first example is easily checked out and for sure they aren't joke apprenticeships.
the second example is also genuine ..... you may wish to refer back to an an earlier post wherein i was commenting that "artisans" cannot get fully qualified without the necessary amount of genuine field work, which quality is also checked by the licencing guys

so stop being a stupid old fart who has had some wind knocked out of his sails

Cleggy and the dim/libs might have a few problems with certain sections of the voting public:

Cyner,

P 25998
now that really is a barefaced lie!

Come on Cyners, we all know how close you and and Hazy one are.

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Hays,

In a nutshell:

"Private sector job creation continued to more than outweigh losses in the public sector, though it is worth noting that much of the overall jobs growth in the three months to April was through self-employment.

For those in work, average pay rises excluding bonuses of 0.9% are still well below the rate of inflation.

The squeeze on their spending power continues on a day when the Institute for Fiscal Studies reported that the fall in real wages since 2008 was the biggest for any comparable period."

(This compares with his own and his mates' rise in income and those in the highest earners group in the country.)

Cameron has been out of control of the government for nearly 4years and the actions and economic policies economy he has implemented are a disaster.

He is stimulating it to some degree by probably causing another housing bubble.

As far as his attempt to gloat over the employment figures are concerned I would like to see the earnings of the self employed.

From what I can see many of those are underemployed and searching around for work.

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If he thought anything of the country he would do everybody a favour and resign.

Cyners if you have the details then post them.

For gods sake dont tell me they are these 1 year funded DOE mickey mouse apprenticeships.

Already posted about them and how its all slave labour and kids are sacked after 12 months.

I know for a kick off a plumber does at least 3 years. Is this the case with your mate or is he using the government prog to subsidise his business???

Spot on on Fred....." jobs growth in the three months to April was through self-employment."

Young kids trying to start up in business over 1.5 million and working part time. Usually IT work.

Most of them not a catting else chance of coming good.

Forgotten name for them.......their is one invented a bit like yuppys.

why would i have the contracts - stupid bastard you are!

the one on BBC1 is surely traceable through these gizmos that allow you to play back progs on your computer, so check it out yourself

my plumber is a very straight guy, and he had no reason to embroider any story at all .... we happened to be discussing apprenticeships, particularly as they relate to the building industry in general ..... more specifically we were talking about "building" apprentices acquiring their full qualification certificate

for sure apprentices don't get the same wage as a qualified guy, and that has been so for centuries, but that is not the point of apprenticeships

Ohhh Dear lost it again.

I said he was like Camoron.

Stop being idle and if YOU are going to make claims do the leg work and provide the evidence.

Just wondering now who was the culprit TANKER or CYNIC!!!