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The really useful silver thread (AG)     

squirrel888 - 12 Jun 2013 10:30

><a href=5 Year HUI Index Chart - AMEX Gold Bugs Index Performance" alt="" /> ><a href=1 Year Gold to Silver Price Ratio Chart - Gold Silver Ratio Graph" alt="" />

gazkaz - 13 Jun 2013 00:01 - 26 of 1034

Looks like Gensler
(Head of CFTC & the 4/5 or is it 10yr investigation into.... silver manipulation)

- looks like getting - the push.....for being....to hard on...
- wall st.

If that's an example of being too hard
- makes you wonder - how soft the new (ex SachsOFgold) replacement will be on wall st
- when (Ex sachsOFgold) Gensler goes

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/11/amanda-renteria-cftc-chief_n_3419039.html

gazkaz - 13 Jun 2013 00:16 - 27 of 1034

Even the DUTCH
- are bailing out the Banksters - wring off their toxic shite
- and even - an earlier bailout
- and saddling - the taxpayers with - the tab

I would imagine - The next - will probably be "Cyprus bail in" style

The Wall Street Journal:

The government rescue was inevitable after SNS Reaal
- suffered a run on deposits and.....
- failed to raise capital on its own.

- “It is worrisome.- Nearly the entire Dutch banking system is now on..... a government lifeline,”
(said Arnoud Boot, a professor of corporate finance at the University of Amsterdam).

The Dutch state will inject €2.2 billion ($2.99 billion) into the company,
- write off €800 million from .....an earlier bailout
- and €700 million on the value of SNS Reaal's toxic property loans.
- It will also provide an additional €6.1 billion in loans and guarantees
to put the firm on a sound footing.

BUT
- The burden to taxpayers will be eased somewhat through a (piddly) €1 billion contribution from the other Dutch banks through a special levy.3

gazkaz - 13 Jun 2013 00:32 - 28 of 1034

This latest correction, more than any I can remember, has the experts scratching their heads.
-When an upward or downward spike in the market .....proceeds sans logical underpinnings,
- a snap-back rally or correction...... often follows.

The last such incident in the gold market occurred in 2008.
- The market sold-off roughly 30% at the height of the financial crisis,
- and then..... regained and .....superseded those losses
- before 90-days had elapsed.
(From there the market climbed to all time highs in 2009.)



First,
reserve bank credit has gone vertical since November’s near-term bottom — up over 15%. The Fed might reverse or moderate its purchases at some point in the future, but at the moment, it has the pedal to the metal. While Ben Bernanke couches his rhetoric and keeps the markets guessing, he quietly – in reality — engages the Fed in what could be a new round of quantitative easing.
- In short,
the markets should be paying attention to what the Fed does, not ....what it says.

Second,
- the gold price, as a result of its recent plunge,
- has crossed decisively under the reserve bank credit trend line.

The two developments together have made for
- an interesting chart divergence
- the sort of thing that catches the attention of technicians and.... value investors alike,
- particularly....... if it defies logical explanation.

http://www.usagold.com/cpmforum/2013/06/11/the-connection-between-quantitative-easing-and-the-gold-price-3/

snurkle1 - 13 Jun 2013 06:23 - 29 of 1034

Gaz and squirrel.
Thanks for trying to tell me how to post live links, but as a technophobe I absolutely cannot get my head around tech speak so have no idea what you're on about when you explain

Just use the hyperlink - 2nd icon from the end - at the top of the post box. :-)

it's all Japanese to me.

Is there an English way of telling me how to do it.... idiot fashion??

snurkle1 - 13 Jun 2013 06:30 - 30 of 1034

Slightly off topic.
Look at the difference in price of a 1/2 oz krugerrand gold coin
between CID £507.48 and GuernseyM £483.02

However with the gold / silver ratio very high and rising would gold be the right purchase right now? Gold is cheap, but silver even cheaper....decisions, decisions

squirrel888 - 13 Jun 2013 08:12 - 31 of 1034

Snurks - when you start typing in the box - look to the left and you will see this

B I U

after that there are two more images - the one next to the U is the hyperlink - looks like a link chain and the one next to that is a box with a little bit of blue in the middle.

The chain is for posting links so that your links become blue and live - click on the chain and then paste your link inside the pop up box (you will need to delete the http that is already in there).

Don't worry about charts etc. for now - I've only just learned how to do those. But basically the box after the chain is what is used to post charts, graphics etc.

Give it a try - we'll be patient. :-)









gazkaz - 13 Jun 2013 08:28 - 32 of 1034

Glenn Beck - Teaser - next 24hrs
- a whistleblower will reveal info that can take down - "the whole...power structure"
- and that's his teaser - from having seen .....only one document

">

In the 2 mins - Beck says - the guy will only testify before congress....and on TV at that
- effectively the guy says - he's a "dead man walking"

Beck claims - when the whistleblower reveals...

"The American people, ......you haven’t even begun.. to be outraged".

gazkaz - 13 Jun 2013 09:48 - 33 of 1034

Squirrell - deep joy
- can even embed... click and play videos on here too
(you can watch, if you wish - without even leaving the page ...nice touch :o)

squirrel888 - 13 Jun 2013 10:24 - 34 of 1034

Watching it now. I like this site - very user friendly.

omce36 - 13 Jun 2013 11:00 - 35 of 1034

FYG Squirrel. Frankel isn't a shorter nor is he winnifroth.
His comments certainly were not defamatory either so you might want to tone it down yourself.

snurkle1 - 13 Jun 2013 11:37 - 36 of 1034

Cheers squirrel.

Here goes.

If this is indeed being served up later on today, we'll see some fire works

Glenn Beck to Break WhistleBlower Revelation That Will ‘Take Down’ GOP, Dems, ‘Whole Power Structure’


http://www.silverdoctors.com/glenn-beck-to-break-whistleblower-revelation-that-will-take-down-gop-dems-whole-power-structure/



edit; sorry guys, just saw that gaz has already posted it.

Never mind....... at least the live link worked :-)

squirrel888 - 13 Jun 2013 12:02 - 37 of 1034

Well done Snurks - welcome to the techies world (I'm learning all sorts of stuff over here - loving it - much more user friendly).

That video is mind blowing. Trust you and Gaz will post the actual whistleblowing news as soon as it breaks.

Amazing times we live in.

squirrel888 - 13 Jun 2013 12:08 - 38 of 1034

omce36- 13 Jun 2013 11:00 - 35 of 37

FYG Squirrel. Frankel isn't a shorter nor is he winnifroth.
His comments certainly were not defamatory either so you might want to tone it down yourself.

Noted your comment - by his own admission he sold at a 90% loss and has continued to post negative commentary about the share. He is no longer a shareholder, having crystalised a loss. There is no defence for such negative and destructive commentary. I AM a shareholder and did not sell out therefore have not crystalised any losses. I have every right to comment about others who are deliberately trying to further damage sp value. Why keep on comenting about a share you no longer own? Time to move on if you no longer own. Why spoil it for others who still hold unless you are a shorter and have a hidden agenda.

If you are a shareholder omce36 then you might have compassion for that stance. If not then why post and defend a poster who has posted negatively for quite some time.

Like I said - I have emailed the Board of Directors this morning.

squirrel888 - 13 Jun 2013 12:37 - 39 of 1034

http://www.silver-coin-investor.com/silver-supply.html

snurkle1 - 13 Jun 2013 12:39 - 40 of 1034

I do remember him telling Obama that he had 1 day to tell the public that Boston was an inside job ...or else........

but nothing ever came of that, so I'll wait and see how this pans out.

Gaz is probably your best bet for info late on in the day as I'm usually asleep by 21.00 :-)

squirrel888 - 13 Jun 2013 12:43 - 41 of 1034

Snurks - me too. 2 hours ahead of you guys. 20.00hrs - sleep time.

It beggars belief some of the stuff coming out. It's almost as if public will either give approval or say - this has to stop and now!

To divide a nation with information is truly the way to weaken the people. Divide and conquer.

I do wonder where this info comes from. A part of me says it is in fact the governments using plants themselves. Then to disappear in a flash. It's all too bizarre.

Like information is something to be owned?

omce36 - 13 Jun 2013 12:44 - 42 of 1034

"Noted your comment - by his own admission he sold at a 90% loss and has continued to post negative commentary about the share. He is no longer a shareholder, having crystalised a loss. There is no defence for such negative and destructive commentary"

It's called having an opinion! most of us have one, on the boards we follow, regardless of whether we own stock or not.

"I AM a shareholder and did not sell out therefore have not crystalised any losses. I have every right to comment about others who are deliberately trying to further damage sp value."

Of course you have every right to comment - but Frankel certainly is NOT deliberately trying to damage the SP. He is merely venting his frustration at losing so much in a company that seemed to offer potential.

"Why keep on comenting about a share you no longer own? Time to move on if you no longer own. Why spoil it for others who still hold unless you are a shorter and have a hidden agenda."

Because people find it hard to let go once they've sold.

He certainly is not a shorter. The boards are there to offer both sides - whilst negative ones that are unsubstantiated are unwelcome, a negative opinion based on the facts and events should not be. As investors we want to see both sides of the argument as long as they are put reasonably.

"If you are a shareholder omce36 then you might have compassion for that stance. If not then why post and defend a poster who has posted negatively for quite some time. "

I am a shareholder - have been for at least three years and am down 80%. I'm not as bullish as I used to be but still feel the Debt crisis and the excessive use of QE to get us out of the aforementioned by taking on much more debt is a recipe for disaster. ultimately it should feed through to PM's - why it hasn't to date is a mystery.

Frankel(aka NTD) certainly hasn't been defamatory and you are wasting your time bothering the management of AGQ with something so trivial frankly. They need to focus on sorting out the underperforming mess that AGQ currently is.

snurkle1 - 13 Jun 2013 12:49 - 43 of 1034

omce36 I think you've got the wrong board mate.
The AGQ board is one letter further up the list

omce36 - 13 Jun 2013 12:55 - 44 of 1034

I think this is place to be Snurkle - likely to be far quieter than the AGQ one. Have been reading the Advfn thread - wondered why people were setting up over here was all amongst other things.

squirrel888 - 13 Jun 2013 13:01 - 45 of 1034

omce36 - you are welcome to post about silver and related stocks and if you want how the price of silver might affect silver stocks one way or another. We moved over here because advfn has become destructive to the posting of valid information in the shape of links, charts and videos. We are community that wishes to share information.

I don't believe in destructive behaviour - either in the real world or the ethereal world. Whether some want to admit it or not - we are all interconnected. When you hurt others you ultimately hurt yourself MORE. That is a karmic fact.

I'll do everything I can to remain positive, to remain factual and realistic but what I won't do is allow negativity to destroy me, my world or my family and friends worlds or their childrens future worlds.

So here's a blast of love and light - whoosh. Hope you enjoyed that - it should make you feel loved, wanted and included.
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