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RichardJHJ - 27 Feb 2004 12:27

How do you subscribe?!

I can not find a link on this site anywhere!!!

Any help?

sconradie - 29 Feb 2004 20:03 - 26 of 91

I am still a beginner with share trading and just play small amounts- started 6 months ago and with the help of Shares and other further research, got a nice profit of 30% by now.

maddoctor - 29 Feb 2004 21:08 - 27 of 91

There is one statistic I have seen and that is only 1 in 1000 traders make it over the longterm - another severe bear market and most on these boards will vanish but the writers at Shares Mag will still be making money. Have a look at what the traders are saying on the "honesty" thread.

goldfinger - 01 Mar 2004 00:09 - 28 of 91

Just hold on a second there Maddoctor, who says the posters here are TRADERS, I would say that most are INVESTORS and that you will find the Traders here on this site in the Traders Room.

I dont dispute that figure on traders as I know myself that it can be a tough world in a Bear market when trading, not impossible though as I have been through Bear markets and did quite well in the last 3 year one.

Ashphel Patel says that only one in 10 traders makes a profit in any market.

cheers GF.

amberjane - 01 Mar 2004 00:19 - 29 of 91

GF.
Missed mag as sold out this week so about to subscribe as the few copies I've had have been a great read (mind you I'm a novice)!! I've only just found this site, new to the internet as well....and found comments & people really helpful. Any tips for the morning...?

Fred1new - 01 Mar 2004 00:25 - 30 of 91

I like the Shares Magazine.

Use the tips for pointers to shares which are then in the headlines and attracting market interest. At least they are then likely to move one way or another!

Look at the fundamentals and charts and then watch and wait for a few weeks or perhaps more let the hyp to die away. There is rarely a need to hurry when you are buying.

Perhaps, buy a few if all seems well and the share price hasn't ramped away. But lookout for , rights issues and options which have have not been declared especially with the non-profit making with high RD plans on products which have hyped up expectations. Especially if they are low priced shares. Look at the %dilution on a share of a shares price of 3p by a placing of share at 2p.

It happens too often in small companies, News of a potential fantastic new development. Share price reacts, some selling and then news of a placing of for 10 or more % of the normal share holding. Add the dilution to the spread, brokerage and stamp duty and you may have a long wait to make up for any haste in buying.

Checking cash in hand can be useful, but often with smaller non cash earning companies, with good news the begging hat appears

The problem with many of the smaller companies tips is the spread is often very wide and therefore the price movement has to %greater. Often I will buy a share and while every one is cursing because the price falls below the Tip price if you have time to wait that share returns to give a good return if held for long enough. RTD, Amstrad for egs. But the idea and fundamentals ahve to be good.

But I have bought in many companies which are no longer on the market. And sold many who I have waited at the church door only to get fed up and sell, only to see them sail upwards in the arms of another wooer a few weeks later!!!

If only I could remember what I have just written every time I have money in hand.

C'est la vie.


Fred1new - 01 Mar 2004 00:29 - 31 of 91

PS.
I shouldn't say this. But!! have a look at Techinvest Stockinvest Newsletter. For me it has been very reliable and help me over the last 5years or more.

maddoctor - 01 Mar 2004 08:40 - 32 of 91

goldfinger , I know this is the investors room , just surfing on a sunday as you lot have some good things to say. Was having a go at those maligning Shares Mag. Myself no longer an investor , the bear market taught me better!!!.

ajren - 01 Mar 2004 12:08 - 33 of 91

Hi all,

I am smiling at the response to my post and note NOBODY agrees with me.

If the contributors to Shares magazine,ALL newspaper pundits/Stockbrokers/Banks
Prudential ..............etc are so smart why are they not multi -billionaires.
Warren Buffett /Ken Fisher and 5,6 others are probably the only ones worth
taking SERIOUSLY.
rgds aj

MrDavis - 01 Mar 2004 12:18 - 34 of 91

Well ARJEN due to the fact that your not as you say "CRUISING", why should we listen to you or take you seriously????

ajren - 01 Mar 2004 12:23 - 35 of 91

Did I suggest you take me seriously - I am the same as everyone here i.e.
trying to help and be helped in our dealings?

I repeat my : - if the contributors are so smart -------------
rgds aj

MrDavis - 01 Mar 2004 12:34 - 36 of 91

well i repeat ARJEN, all newspaper pundits are just like yourself trying to help and if your saying wqe shouldn't listen to them then why should we listen to you? or am i missing something?

amberjane - 01 Mar 2004 13:24 - 37 of 91

Good for you MrDavies!!!!

MrDavis - 01 Mar 2004 13:38 - 38 of 91

Cheers amberjane,
i do believe their are two sides to every story but Arjen doesn't seem to look at either side of an arguement!

ajren - 01 Mar 2004 13:46 - 39 of 91

Did I ask you to listen to me ? I am merely giving my OPINION.

Many of the writers are Professionals in that that is their occupation,hence,
many take their advice/suggestions very seriously to the extent that they -
amateurs - will deal solely on what they say e.g.their Stockbroker.I am merely
trying to make a small attempt to stop regarding them as financial Gods and
making the point that if they e.g.your stockbroker is that smart he should be
a billionaire.
rgds aj

rgds aj

MrDavis - 01 Mar 2004 14:09 - 40 of 91

and i was just making the point that you don't have to be a billionaire to be good at your job, it would take millions to make billions surely??? also bearing in mind that we have just coming out of a bear market!!
these people are here to help us and point us in the right direction, i for one know that without a magazine like SHARES or BB's like this then investing would be a whole lot more difficult!

ajren - 01 Mar 2004 14:49 - 41 of 91

Their job is making money for clients.If they cannot make millions/billions for
themselves then they are useless - especially a Stockbroker.

BBs like this do an incredibly good job because people are not greatly influnced
by any one post.We get a Huge amount of info on almost every post so we have
the opportunity to assess that information CRITICALLY and make a BALANCED
decision.If a person takes their Stockbrokers advise they are then taking the
view of 1 person and that 1 person is often biased e.g.Morgan Stanley made
BILLIONS of dollars dealing on Corus AND they were/perhaps still are one
of the RECOMMENDING BROKERS e.g . buy,sell,hold on the shares.I know - I bought
Corus at 8.00 and sold at 14 on foot of a Standard and Poor report.They subsequently went up to at least 52.00 in 2 months.Surely their report was
biased as they MUST have known about Morgan Stanleys position.I believe much
of the City is corrupt.

Grandma - 01 Mar 2004 17:12 - 42 of 91

I have taken "Shares" from day one & think it is still improving except for one thing- the small size of the index recently. Would anyone join me in asking them to go back to full page size? Please post if so as I guess they read this thread.

eckoh - 01 Mar 2004 21:02 - 43 of 91

I agree Grandma, please bring the index back to full size.

bella - 02 Mar 2004 08:45 - 44 of 91

I would also appreciate the index back in full size.

Regarding the debate re: subscribe or not to subscribe. I find the magazine useful regarding information on small companies but do not rely solely on their recommendations before buying. Used alongside other factors sentiment, results due, charting, etc, the magazine is useful to me. However,over the past 5 weeks I have been experiencing problems receiving the magazine on Thursdays. The first call to the Subscription helpline I was told 'It happens, we cannot guarantee arrival on Thursday, 18,000 copies are posted Wednesday lunchtime on a weekly basis.' Last week I was told they are aware of the problem and investigating the reason for the delay. Some weeks I do not receive my magazine until the following Monday or Wednesday, which is of little use to me by that time due to the time sensitive nature of information. Is anyone else experiencing these problems?

Pete Adams - 02 Mar 2004 10:29 - 45 of 91

Bella - I find Shares arrives on the thursday most weeks, but friday about once every 5 weeks. I rang subscriptions helpline once when it hadn't arrived by saturday and they sent another one out as they assumed it was lost in the post. Both copies arrived on the monday!

I find the quality of the articles very variable. Some are very well written, others not - often too basic. I like David Jones (the Chartist) and I usually learn something new from each issue. But I do find Shares a good starting point for ideas to do further research.
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