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Time to sell Top Tiles (TPT)     

skreen - 12 Jan 2005 16:22

The trading statement announced a slowing of sales growth,margins are under pressure as B&Q and Carpetright have entered the market recently depriving them of their semi monopoly, it has a ridulously high price earnings ratio, the graphics are now very negative after its pre Christmas spurt, retail spending on discretionery items is gone negative (witness cars). The respected Investors Chronicle is very bearish on them.

Minx - 17 Mar 2005 21:02 - 26 of 49

It's not just profit taking, retail sales generally well down, property not changing hands and therefore middle england not laying new tiles. TA now shows the sp well below the support line of the rising trend and the next support stop is 180p - sell up in May ( or march) and come back on St Ledgers day, may hold true with a number of stocks this year, TPT being one of them.

love to all

Minx

azhar - 23 Mar 2005 11:52 - 27 of 49

Topps Tiles PLC
23 March 2005

Topps Tiles

Interim Pre Close Trading Update

Topps Tiles, the UK's biggest ceramic tile and wood flooring specialist is
pleased to announced that overall turnover for the 26 week period ended 2 April
2005 is expected to be in the region of 87 million, with like for like sales
for the same period expected to be an increase of 8%. However in the last four
weeks we have experienced very tough trading with like-for-like sales for these
four weeks alone running at between 2-3% below the same period last year.

Operational profit before tax is expected to be approximately 19.5 million. In
addition, there is an exceptional profit on property disposals of 1.5 million
to give a 26 week total profit before tax in the region of 21 million, an
approximate increase of 35% on last years 27 week comparative.

The Board expects to announce its interim results for the 26 week period to 2
April 2005 on Tuesday 24 May 2005.


azhar - 26 Apr 2005 12:06 - 28 of 49

Has this been oversold? certainly looking interesting again.

ethel - 26 Apr 2005 14:12 - 29 of 49

Watch out,there are some stocks that fall out of favour with the market and never fully restore to their former glory.This could be one of them...IMHO

azhar - 26 Apr 2005 16:58 - 30 of 49

Thanx Ethel. Opinion appreciated

Minx - 04 May 2005 08:36 - 31 of 49

azhar, I was thinking similar, closed my short at the 180 support line, see now it has dropped to the 162 and is hovering around there. Could be looking to recover a little. ??

Minx - 04 May 2005 12:34 - 32 of 49

It is now below the support - now a resistance, no support below this ??? At long term the next support is somewhere around 57p

queen1 - 15 Jun 2005 13:30 - 33 of 49

I'm back in. I sold back in February but feel the time is right to dip my toe back in again. This threads's been quiet for a while. Anybody else out there still in TPT?

carl1965 - 20 Jun 2005 12:42 - 34 of 49

Hi,
I,ve never owned them and whilst ethel's opinion is valid, there is a persuasive write up in TMI out last Sat (TPT being one of their successes). Also, Shares mag on Fri included them in a general retail article for similar reasons.
I'm going to give them a go.

queen1 - 20 Jun 2005 14:43 - 35 of 49

Best of luck carl1965....and welcome to the party!

queen1 - 22 Jun 2005 19:33 - 36 of 49

Nice rise of 4% today, probably attributable to the figures from Dixons which weren't quite as bad as the market feared.

queen1 - 02 Dec 2005 08:50 - 37 of 49

Been quiet on here recently. Well I feel that this week's results were splendid given the recent state of the high street and housing markets. Definitely more to come from Topps in 2006!

Group turnover up 10% to 173.3m (2004: 157.6m)
Like for like sales increased by 3.4% (2004:21.5%)
Core store (stores opened pre September 2002) like for like sales up 1.6%
group gross margin improved to 61.3% (2004: 60.5%)
Operating costs represented 40% of turnover (2004: 39.9%)
Profit Before Tax up 16.1% to 39.2m (2004: 33.8m)
Profit before tax, excluding exceptional capital items, up 12.9% to 37.5m (2004: 33.3m)
Basic EPS up 18.1% to 13.34p (2004:11.30p)
Final net dividend 6.00 pence payable 31 January 2006
Total dividend of 9.50 pence per share (2004: 8.00 pence) up 18.8%
Strong cash generation with net cash balances of 21.8 m at period end

oddie - 03 Dec 2005 17:42 - 38 of 49

Hi.
Does anyone think the share will get to last year's level, 270+ any time soon? Bought at 199p and sold at 245p then got carried away & bought loads @ 235p & 265p (!!!) believing they would go all the way to 300p+. Nursing heavy losses at the moment. Had sleepless nights when it hit the lows of 156p 3 weeks ago!!! Didn't have the courage to buy more then to average down which would have been great with hindsight! Now testing 200p but wondered if someone believes this will re-test 260-270p anytime soon?? this week's results are actually really good & encouraging (new stores allegedly doing very well !) but good enough to take share price back up to 270p+??. Bit disappointed that final dividend wasn't increased though (was hoping for 8p !). Does anyone have any thoughts/predictions on the potential share price in the next 2/3 mths?
Thanks for replying.
A worryingly out of pocket TPT holder

queen1 - 03 Dec 2005 21:35 - 39 of 49

Good to hear from you oddie. No TPT crystal Ball I'm afraid but I do feel these will continue to climb (not sure about 270p-300p though). It's a quality operation that has continued to prosper in difficult trading conditions when those around it have struggled. The housing crash that everyone talked about looks to have been nothing more than a soft landing and property prices seem to be starting to gently rise again. And if people are moving they'll be using TPT products.

Plus, it's a sound business model, built on strong financials. And, I wouldn't be totally surprised to see a bid for the company by 2007. Then you might see 300p.

oddie - 05 Dec 2005 10:35 - 40 of 49

Thanks for reply, Queen1.
As you said, the company is sound, with strong financials and possibly a bid target in a not too distant future.
Unfortunately the market got a bit carried away with the share this time last year (& me with it!) - from 170p to a high of 277p in just over 2 mths, only for it to crash with a bang following a "profit warning" (company effectively telling the market not to get toooo carried away IMHO).
I was a mid/long term holder so didn't sell even when it hit my stop loss of 250p! Should have done and bought back later when things had settled a bit. The beauty of hindsight!
As I said, I like the company and think it'll do extremely well when the housing market picks up again but I agree that my only chance to ever break even+ might be with a takeover bid!
W.Buffet said that "a long term investment is an investment gone wrong...." might not agree totally but then again.....

oddie - 05 Dec 2005 10:35 - 41 of 49

Thanks for reply, Queen1.
As you said, the company is sound, with strong financials and possibly a bid target in a not too distant future.
Unfortunately the market got a bit carried away with the share this time last year (& me with it!) - from 170p to a high of 277p in just over 2 mths, only for it to crash with a bang following a "profit warning" (company effectively telling the market not to get toooo carried away IMHO).
I was a mid/long term holder so didn't sell even when it hit my stop loss of 250p! Should have done and bought back later when things had settled a bit. The beauty of hindsight!
As I said, I like the company and think it'll do extremely well when the housing market picks up again but I agree that my only chance to ever break even+ might be with a takeover bid!
W.Buffet said that "a long term investment is an investment gone wrong...." might not agree totally but then again.....

oddie - 07 Dec 2005 12:09 - 42 of 49

Hi everyone,

Re. TPT
Share price sliding continuously over last few days. From 200p to 192p bid now. A few pences down every day. Not sure how that can be stopped without positive updates from the Company...

How is the chart looking at the moment??
Thanks for reply

stockdog - 07 Dec 2005 12:21 - 43 of 49

I've been watching TPT since it tested May's 160pish low again in October. I see it has now bounced down off the intervening 200pish high. If it comes back down and through the 160p level I will go short. Until then, it is indeterminate, but on macro fundamentals after such a long and sustained run up the SP must look vulnerable to profit taking in a major way looking at the general prognosis for retail businesses, especially those related to the housing market. I don't think we've seen nuffin' yet in terms of house price falls over the next year or so, when imported inflation may well cause interest rates to rise again. All IMHO - DYOR.

sd

oddie - 08 Dec 2005 10:39 - 44 of 49

Thanks for reply Stockdog.

Altough TPT are affected by the retail slowdown, they are in a niche market and all things considered, looking at TPT latest results, they are actually doing pretty well 'in tough market conditions' + do you know of many companies having a 60%+
gross profit margin?!?
They have a v. healthy balance sheet and are slowly expanding towards their 350 outlets target therefore increasing their market share.

Their plus points: biggest & best choice of quality product at competitive prices.
Also their customer service is second to none; I don't know if you've ever been to one of their stores and talked to their staff. I do, every now and then (I have a lot of money invested in them after all !) -without telling them I'm a shareholder and I am never disappointed!
In fact when I called one of their newly opened warehouses in Folkestone/Kent pretending to be a potential customer, I was even invited to a tour and a glass of champagne! and no, they weren't so bored that they didn't have anything else to do - the store was actually buzzing w/ customers buying (with a glass of champagne in their hands!!!).

The short term is admittedly volatile but the mid to long term outlook is v. good. The current 5% yield is also very attractive and well above average.

Patience will be needed to see last year's levels again but we'll get there -quicker in the event of a takeover bid and let's face it what a great company to buy: if it can weather the storm fairly unscathed then imagine when times are good/really good!


Comments welcomed..

oddie - 05 Jan 2006 13:27 - 45 of 49

Hello!

Didn't get any comments on my last posting of Dec. 8th. This board seems rather sedate....anyone there??

The share price since then has gone up and up steadily and briefly touched 217p! I think the Market expects good results next week...

Topps Tiles has been tipped as a share to hold for 2006.

Has anyone got any comments???

Thanks for replying.
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