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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

stroreysj - 16 Sep 2008 14:24 - 2606 of 21973

i know im the number 1 conspiracy theorist but why do the online trading platforms like Waterhouse always go down when anything exciting happens. Everything is stacked against the Retail investor

spitfire43 - 16 Sep 2008 14:29 - 2607 of 21973

Yes I have just tried to place a order and surprise surprise the platform is down, it will be interesting to see if they execute some I already have in the system.

stroreysj - 16 Sep 2008 14:41 - 2608 of 21973

spitfire I obviously spoke too soon. i had a 5000 share buy at 1.5 on HBOS and they filled at 1.46. Pretty hard to argue with that for a change. Just sit and hold for 4 years

dealerdear - 16 Sep 2008 15:45 - 2609 of 21973

selftrade has been out on and off for the last 2 days just as I need to trade.

stroreysj - 16 Sep 2008 15:52 - 2610 of 21973

i know it has taken me over 30 mins to put a limit order on. Got it at 194.75, which will be a nice little earner if it comes off although dont have much confidence in the trade as the transaction date is showing as 22/02/91

cynic - 16 Sep 2008 15:53 - 2611 of 21973

nothing would surprise me re Waterhouse ..... see thread

dealerdear - 16 Sep 2008 15:54 - 2612 of 21973

lol Christ, think I might have still been a virgin then!!

selftrade down again grrr

cynic - 16 Sep 2008 16:07 - 2613 of 21973

rubbish!

dealerdear - 16 Sep 2008 16:08 - 2614 of 21973

what that I was a virgin or about selftrade!

Just phoned them up and they said forget it basically

stroreysj - 16 Sep 2008 16:20 - 2615 of 21973

i think i will buy a lottery ticket as clearly my day. Despite taking over 1 hour for a two way trade and trading blind its actually worked out at the top and bottom of the market. Set a buy at 1.5 - filled at 1.46. Set limit at 194.75 and sold at 199.25. Never happened before and never likely to happen again

dealerdear - 16 Sep 2008 16:23 - 2616 of 21973

Well done!

Wish I could say the same!

Falcothou - 16 Sep 2008 20:06 - 2617 of 21973

Well you were right to short and right that they would leave rates on hold cynic

Falcothou - 16 Sep 2008 20:19 - 2618 of 21973

Bit about Aig from permabear
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/

cynic - 16 Sep 2008 20:19 - 2619 of 21973

confess that though i called everything correctly, i got my stops and everything else all wrong, so got fucked! ...... anyway, at least the market has woken to the fact that "unchanged" was the correct decision, so London should open quite brightly

Falcothou - 16 Sep 2008 20:37 - 2620 of 21973

No more Mr. nice guy from Mr.Ben, getting strict on the wall street kids.I have had to do more hedging today than any other, thought ftse would never stop dropping live to fight another day

Falcothou - 16 Sep 2008 20:44 - 2621 of 21973

From yesterday's close dax down 57,ftse 149, dow up 100, ftse possibly oversold

stroreysj - 17 Sep 2008 07:05 - 2622 of 21973

I have listened to market analysis crap all morning about how the market will go up 20% on the back of AIG. Market reality set in to Asia about 3 hours into the session today. Im sure the FTSE and the DOW will follow suit. How can an $85 billion loan at 850 points over LIBOR repayable over two years and have 80% of your assets taken be considerd a rescue plan. It is a prolonged receivership where the assets will be let go to the benefit of the US government. I would not trade long if you have to step away from the screen, or atleast set tight stops

cynic - 17 Sep 2008 07:15 - 2623 of 21973

because if AIG had been put into receivership, the repercussions across the world would have been appalling ....... AIG's future has been plaguing the market for the last 7/10 days, and at least the uncertainty is removed, albeit that US tax payer is now the (unwilling) owner of Fanny and Freddy and AIG.

The demise of Merrill and Lehman is at least under control, the one going to BoA and the latter, probably to BARC.

stroreysj - 17 Sep 2008 07:23 - 2624 of 21973

Cynic don't get me wrong I absolutely agree that AIG had to be saved because of the counter party risk and the possible collaspe of the financial system. The point I was trying to make is this is not a catalyst to stimulate a 20% up side. But then again made 37% on HBOS in 60 minutes so anything is possible

cynic - 17 Sep 2008 07:29 - 2625 of 21973

the great enemy of the stock market is uncertainty .... that has now been removed, even if we still have no idea quite where the road is leading, even in the very immediate future
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