bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
greekman
- 27 Mar 2008 07:59
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Yes but no matter what the market SEAQ, SETS or a hybrid of both the market can still be made from pressure from many angles.
MM's can make a market even in the hybrid system because as I understand it they can display their prices disguised as a SETS trade, IE an open stated price.
Anyone with deeper knowledge, I do stand to be corrected.
A problem we also have and I can not see how it can be solved unless the whole system of short selling is quashed.
Several short sellers, Simon Cawkwell to name just one can go short and publicize the move which effects the Sp just as they want it to purely because of the volumes they deal in.
On the other side of the coin, if you have enough pull Warren Buffet for example can purchase or sell such a huge stake in a company that on announcement the Sp moves as per his buy/sell.
Sometimes money just makes more money.
hewittalan6
- 27 Mar 2008 08:06
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It's happening again............
NURSE!!!!!!
tweenie
- 27 Mar 2008 08:44
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Plastics/greenseal/frog crap aside...........
given the debate re nuclear power and the drive forward to build more reactors, I wonder how much SEO make out of their welders in this market?
hewittalan6
- 01 Apr 2008 10:01
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Has anyone got the faintest idea what is going on??
There is no way the volume on LSE accounts for the SP movements, so is it MM's taking it for a walk to encourage trding, or is there much more volume on plusmarkets etc. of which I am unaware?
Confused again.
Alan
kimoldfield
- 01 Apr 2008 10:10
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2,655,550 is the Plus Markets volume Alan, with a fair number of trades showing. Volume not that much for present day SEO really so it could be MM's doing their thing; or it could be just a general, slightly crazy, optimism that affects us SEO holders hoping for the announcement that SEO are about to save the planet!
kimoldfield
- 01 Apr 2008 10:23
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3,663,410 on Plus now but cannot say how much of that is on the buy side.
dealerdear
- 01 Apr 2008 10:26
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I'm no expert in this but it does appear, over the last few months in particular that MM are moving the prices in many small stocks to entice you in before dropping it again and I suspect that is what is happening to SEO today.
Makes trading in these companies a nightmare at the moment trying to fathom what is 'real' and what is not.
Hope that makes sense!
greekman
- 01 Apr 2008 10:32
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Alan,
There is just no making sense of the markets at present.
For one example see Patient line, it's been in the top gainers, top losers about 6 times over the last few weeks (not a holder and never have been so there may be valid reasons). But Patient line is just 1 of several shares that have been up/down like the proverbial yo yo. recently
I feel there will be even further volatility in the markets come 5th/6th of this month, due to the CGT revamp.
See my views on Talk To Yourself thread, where I would value other posters views.
Greek.
PATISEAR
- 01 Apr 2008 10:45
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Eatimates for 2008 look good.
http://stocks.us.reuters.com/stocks/estimates.asp?symbol=SEO.L
kimoldfield
- 01 Apr 2008 11:02
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PATISEAR
"Eatimates..." Is this a new SEO product for wrapping food in?! ;o)
kimoldfield
- 01 Apr 2008 11:04
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Let's hope they can turn the estimates into reality.
oblomov
- 01 Apr 2008 12:01
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I'm surprised SEO haven't put an RNS out today.
kimoldfield
- 01 Apr 2008 12:12
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Yes Oblo, me too! Or is it always April 1 in SEO land?
oblomov
- 01 Apr 2008 12:40
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I fear so, Kim! Did you mean to say 'in SEO Never Never land'!
I'll add Peter Pan to my dream SEO board - as CEO!
hangon
- 01 Apr 2008 13:00
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Forget the sp moves, SEO and Patientline and others! are on a long-term slide. Wait until execs recognise their dire sales and there might be some excuse for rejoicing. Until then these movements are (as suggested here) ...MM's playing games, & protecting their positions!
Until these companies offer investors some solid evidence they are real businesses - stay away! The sp graph tell it all, ignore minor rises, these have a LOT of catching up to do.....like 10x.....which is most unlikely.
hewittalan6
- 01 Apr 2008 13:07
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Too long in the tooth to be excited, and I feel it is MM's playing their little games, but one cannot ignore (though I know little about charts) both the fact that 50 & 200 DMA are rising and crossing and the formation of the worlds widest ever cup and handle (which is made from Bioplast and will disintigrate the moment anyone outs a drink in it).
oblomov
- 01 Apr 2008 14:01
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Agree - the mm's have to do this to keep come interest in SEO - the share has become very boring. SEO used to keep investors interested by lieing to them. That doesn't work now - once bitten... so until (or if there ever is) some solid good news, the mm's will continue, up and down.
I wont get excited until the SP at least trebles - that'll mean something concrete is happening.
Tonyrelaxes
- 01 Apr 2008 21:24
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Hi all
Oh !
Back to sleep.....
tweenie
- 02 Apr 2008 08:48
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ooooooooooohh an rns.
oooooooooooooh no news
:-)
can't even be arsed cut and pasting it.
if reuters figures/projections are trustworthy (seo LOL)
then p/e of 7/8 is well undervalued.
Sp should be north of 3p.
DYOR . WTFDIK. HOLDING not BUYING.
Have a nice day.
kimoldfield
- 02 Apr 2008 09:00
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oooooooooooooooooh, SEO have put the Report on their website; it wasn't there when I looked earlier. So at last, we have someone who is almost on the ball at SEO; I thought the Report may have biodegraded but no, there it is! Should I read it?