Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Dreams,
You should turn your tap off before you go to bed.
Take your earplugs out and listen to what is being said by Balls and others and accept that Georgie Boy and Wavy Wacky Dave’s policies are failing.
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Nobody in their right mind (except a few deluded con artists at tory headquarters and campfollowers) would in the present economic climate forecast the British Debt.
Look at the true UK debt since these incompetents got into power.
Look at percentage rate relative to stagnant GDP.
Look around for somebody to carry the can.
This corrupt lying group of incompetents could run a corner shop.
Perhaps, they could utilise the services of their personal tax advises to run the government.
(Just heard George is full of “confidence” about the economy. Crap is what he meant to say.)
Just re-read what I wrote earlier, some of which has come true.
“Fred1new - 06 May 2010 17:03 - 93 of 226
Halifax,

If the tories get in they will paint the darkest picture and then achieve it without understanding the reasons why.

What I fear, is that if the tories succeed and introduce the swinging cuts, which usually appeals to some tories and tory governments, and then we might have large scaled "social unrest", similar to, but on a lesser intensity than Greece.

This time, if Osborne opens the cupboard, he won't find any gold, or silver to sell to his friends in order to reduce general taxation.

It is possible, that he will go down in history as the chancellor who introduced the highest general taxation in the last sixty years.

The squawking has yet to come. “

:-)

so fred clearly decided that what i wrote wasn't garbage, though he thought about it (he edited post-event ...... shame of course that he finds it all too petit bourgeois to actually VOTE at all .... guess he feels it leaves him free to criticise anything, or anything or anyone and everyone without actually feeling any responsibility .... one step lower than any party in opposition really

cynic
It is also interesting to see Fred's change of position. In the post above he now says, "If the tories get in.." Up to now he has been saying the Tories can't get in.

to be honest, it doesn't much matter what he says, as i outlined in my last post

to say the tories have done a good job would be stretching a point somewhat, but for sure, anyone else who picked up the reins after the last election, had something of a poisoned chalice to deal with

Manuel,

I still value my liberties, including whether, or not to take part in tribal voting which you seem to relish.

My previous editing was while I attempted to "paste" charts to enable "innocents" similar to you, to recognise problems increased by ideological economic naivety which has been demonstrated by your icons.
(I failed to C+P or attach the images, maybe some friends don't want me pinching their work. Don't blame them.)

As far as criticising is concerned, I do like challenging what I see as false arguments, but sometimes don't disagree with the sentiments contained in the arguments presented. But I dislike pronouncements by some gullible and vociferous individuals.

As far is responsibility is concerned, I shed my responsibility, other than to myself and those immediate to me, a long time ago, but have always thought the choice of action others make is, in general, the responsibility of the individual making them.

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One way Labour (possibly coalition with Libs) get in power in 2015 to increase government revenue would be similar as the propose for "Bankers", is to prosecute Cameron, Osborne and henchmen for their incompetence and freeze their pensions for 20 years.

Also, to make swingeing increases on inheritance and trusts used as tax avoidances.

Could be fun!

8-)

Hays,

"Between cup and lip there's many a slip"!

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My betting would be Labour, with some Libs, forming the next UK government.

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I am surprised that there is so little discontent shown by the general public at the moment, but the effects of government cuts and various cockups have yet to kick in and be felt by the public as a whole.

I will wait and watch.

Reckon Fred should take a course of senopods asap, he really is so full of shit. Bit of overtime for Birmingham City Council, overflow of sewars imminent. :O)

lol. Chris.

fred - nothing wrong with being a floating voter and deciding to vote for the least worst at the crunch ..... though you choose disagree, i feel strongly (as you know), that failing to cast any vote anywhere or at any time is a complete abdication of responsibility .... you then get what you deserve, but deserve no right to then criticise whatever gov't you have landed yourself with

Manuel,

I love opinions from the self-opinionated men.

You could have fitted in well with the Eton mobsters.

Personally, I am critical of all three major parties and would not like to support any of the,

However, I do agree with some policies of all of them. but consider the present tory economic policies are disastrous for the UK as a whole.


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Fred the FLOATER! very apt.

What about making it law you have to vote ?

We didn't run up too much debt when we were in Government, says Balls (so what IS he on?) The same as what Fred is on.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2335438/Ed-Balls-Labour-didnt-run-debt-Government.html

Interesting from the above Fred (no comment I suspect ?) -

Mr Balls's words came as a poll showed just 30 per cent of voters think Labour can be trusted with the economy.

so tell me fred, whose policies do you consider would be better? ..... so far, we have heard your perpetual strident criticisms but no support of any proposed by anyone else ..... or is that because no other party of any hue has put forward a credible alternative?

btw, i assume you excuse yourself from the tribal mob of the self-opinionated, the secondary-modern mobsters, the bash street kids or any other grouping social or otherwise .... no doubt you're an island unto yourself (except no man shall be), or is that because no one else will invite you to join their gang (not even gary glitter) :-)

Fred just want's to sit in his chair and not vote and then just go on and on about how the government have it so wrong. I do not know how close the picture resembles Fred.
:-))

My view on voting - So when people don’t bother, men or women, they are taking democracy for granted. It doesn’t matter that you may disagree with all the political parties. You may be thoroughly fed up with the whole political system. If so, then go and at least spoil your ballot paper - draw a silly cartoon on it. Do anything on it (well not quite anything). But at least go to the polling station.

Should be compulsory in the UK to vote

Compulsory Voting

Australia is Well-Known for its Compulsory Voting Laws

One of the most well-known compulsory voting systems is in Australia. All Australian citizens over the age of 18 (except those of unsound mind or those convicted of serious crimes) must be registered to vote and show up at the poll on election day

Fred would still escape. :-))

http://geography.about.com/od/politicalgeography/a/compulsoryvote.htm