Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Manuel,

I still value my liberties, including whether, or not to take part in tribal voting which you seem to relish.

My previous editing was while I attempted to "paste" charts to enable "innocents" similar to you, to recognise problems increased by ideological economic naivety which has been demonstrated by your icons.
(I failed to C+P or attach the images, maybe some friends don't want me pinching their work. Don't blame them.)

As far as criticising is concerned, I do like challenging what I see as false arguments, but sometimes don't disagree with the sentiments contained in the arguments presented. But I dislike pronouncements by some gullible and vociferous individuals.

As far is responsibility is concerned, I shed my responsibility, other than to myself and those immediate to me, a long time ago, but have always thought the choice of action others make is, in general, the responsibility of the individual making them.

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One way Labour (possibly coalition with Libs) get in power in 2015 to increase government revenue would be similar as the propose for "Bankers", is to prosecute Cameron, Osborne and henchmen for their incompetence and freeze their pensions for 20 years.

Also, to make swingeing increases on inheritance and trusts used as tax avoidances.

Could be fun!

8-)

Hays,

"Between cup and lip there's many a slip"!

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My betting would be Labour, with some Libs, forming the next UK government.

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I am surprised that there is so little discontent shown by the general public at the moment, but the effects of government cuts and various cockups have yet to kick in and be felt by the public as a whole.

I will wait and watch.

Reckon Fred should take a course of senopods asap, he really is so full of shit. Bit of overtime for Birmingham City Council, overflow of sewars imminent. :O)

lol. Chris.

fred - nothing wrong with being a floating voter and deciding to vote for the least worst at the crunch ..... though you choose disagree, i feel strongly (as you know), that failing to cast any vote anywhere or at any time is a complete abdication of responsibility .... you then get what you deserve, but deserve no right to then criticise whatever gov't you have landed yourself with

Manuel,

I love opinions from the self-opinionated men.

You could have fitted in well with the Eton mobsters.

Personally, I am critical of all three major parties and would not like to support any of the,

However, I do agree with some policies of all of them. but consider the present tory economic policies are disastrous for the UK as a whole.


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Fred the FLOATER! very apt.

What about making it law you have to vote ?

We didn't run up too much debt when we were in Government, says Balls (so what IS he on?) The same as what Fred is on.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2335438/Ed-Balls-Labour-didnt-run-debt-Government.html

Interesting from the above Fred (no comment I suspect ?) -

Mr Balls's words came as a poll showed just 30 per cent of voters think Labour can be trusted with the economy.

so tell me fred, whose policies do you consider would be better? ..... so far, we have heard your perpetual strident criticisms but no support of any proposed by anyone else ..... or is that because no other party of any hue has put forward a credible alternative?

btw, i assume you excuse yourself from the tribal mob of the self-opinionated, the secondary-modern mobsters, the bash street kids or any other grouping social or otherwise .... no doubt you're an island unto yourself (except no man shall be), or is that because no one else will invite you to join their gang (not even gary glitter) :-)

Fred just want's to sit in his chair and not vote and then just go on and on about how the government have it so wrong. I do not know how close the picture resembles Fred.
:-))

My view on voting - So when people don’t bother, men or women, they are taking democracy for granted. It doesn’t matter that you may disagree with all the political parties. You may be thoroughly fed up with the whole political system. If so, then go and at least spoil your ballot paper - draw a silly cartoon on it. Do anything on it (well not quite anything). But at least go to the polling station.

Should be compulsory in the UK to vote

Compulsory Voting

Australia is Well-Known for its Compulsory Voting Laws

One of the most well-known compulsory voting systems is in Australia. All Australian citizens over the age of 18 (except those of unsound mind or those convicted of serious crimes) must be registered to vote and show up at the poll on election day

Fred would still escape. :-))

http://geography.about.com/od/politicalgeography/a/compulsoryvote.htm

Australia doesn't enforce the compulsory voting laws with any effort. Theoretically it is A$20 if you don't vote and A$50 if it goes to court. About 4% of people refuse to vote and almost none get fined.

Dreams,

You do seem a tacky little man with the talents and humour of the overgrown school boy behind the bicycle shed.

Be careful or you nanny may tell you off.

But do carry on with your dreams.

However, I think it wiser not to expose your phantasy too much, as they may be considered projections.

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Manuel,

Read some of my previous postings.

(I repeat myself too often, and trying not to do it too often, but notice this is a failing in you more often than myself.)

In some posting you may find, I have agreed some of the intentions and even policies of the present Con party’s government. However, with the present rotten crew of failures, it has been less frequent than with previous tory administrations.

Much of the actions of Cameron and Osborne have introduced have been short term and self serving and in their own political interest. (Hence the u-turns carried out when they find the public disagree with the policies.)

If you read back you will read that I disagreed with many of the Blair and Brown government’s policies and actions. I certainly disagreed with the actions and policies of many previous labour governments.

I did have a sneaking respect for the Lib/Dems, and understand the difficulties with choosing to, or not to, form a coalition government in 2010. Still respect a few of their policies and member, but one or two leave me cold.

You may be able to read the "article" indicated. (It is too difficult for the nightmare to understand. )

It in one way summarised my scepticism and disillusionment with politics.


"A crisis of legitimacy"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/23/britain-divided-social-inequality

Don't be nasty Fred. lol .If one dishes it out, one had better learn to take the medicine back. :-))

so fred, who do you currently think has any viable alternative economic alternative? ...... as far as i can still determine, you think no one .... that being so, shut up and put up with what you've condemned yourself to by refusing to vote

Cynic,

If you managed to read the previous, another and perhaps more pertinent article by Andrew Rawnsley is :-
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/23/tories-alternative-queens-speech

He is quite amusing, but very observant of weaknesses.

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