bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
required field
- 03 Apr 2008 22:37
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Please don't get me wrong as I 'm trying not to knock SEO anymore...(well...I'll try anyway !)...but I often come across old plastic bags in the garden at times and these things are possibly no more than 2 years old and they are in tatters, I mean they are disintegrating into pieces....what's this business about plastic bags lasting 100 years... they must be really tough....I have yet to come across anything plastic that's going to last a century.
oblomov
- 03 Apr 2008 22:57
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They all break up to a certain extent - but not completely. The size of the pieces you see are probably the full extent they are going to disintegrate to for a very long time. The small pieces scatter but dont break down. They can themselves into water and pollute that.
Bio-degradable bags are not much better - they just break up into smaller pieces quicker.
Compostable bags completely break down - under the right conditions.
oblomov
- 03 Apr 2008 22:57
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They all break up to a certain extent - but not completely. The size of the pieces you see are probably the full extent they are going to disintegrate to for a very long time. The small pieces scatter but dont break down. They can enter into water supplies and pollute that.
Bio-degradable bags are not much better - they just break up into smaller pieces quicker.
Compostable bags completely break down - under the right conditions.
greekman
- 04 Apr 2008 07:58
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Also they take far longer to break down in landfill when they are buried away from the air. This is where the 100 years breakdown timescale comes from when they are protected from the elements. Also as these plastic bags degrade the poisons they contain mix with the soil. Bio-degradable bags eliminate all these problems.
required field
- 04 Apr 2008 08:07
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Thanks for the info lads !
Mad Pad
- 04 Apr 2008 08:20
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Oblo you got it wrong(I think),it's "degradeable "bags that breakdown into to small pieces.They are made from petroplastics with an additive that helps them breakdown.I will be at the AGM,dont want to miss the next episode!
greekman
- 04 Apr 2008 08:27
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Both degradable and bio-degradable break down and as they do both types split it's smaller pieces. They main difference is that the bio type have far less effect on the environment than the degradable. It could be argued that the petroplastic bag does degrade, the problem being the huge time scale. Even plastic bottles degrade over time.
Madpad,
Too far away re the AGM to attend so will look forward to any reports from attendees.
oblomov
- 04 Apr 2008 08:42
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Point taken, Mad and greek - I meant that, aside from compostable, they don't break down completely, even the biodegradable ones. Or at least, not for a long time, greek says.
tweenie
- 11 Apr 2008 21:36
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A week without a post.
Could'nt resist.
Nothing to see here..............move along.
:-)
moneyplus
- 12 Apr 2008 12:34
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Anyone noticed with all the latest publicity about marine pollution and plastic litter how often the articles mention cigarette butts as a major part of the problem----what happened to the seo solution??
greekman
- 12 Apr 2008 16:33
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Yes the cig butt problem has been in the media regularly for some months now. I also have wondered what has been the final decision by SEO re this. Have they just disregarded the issue as a total loss or what. Would be nice to know or are SEO still treating us like the proverbial mushroom.
oblomov
- 12 Apr 2008 17:07
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From the 2006 annual report:-
'We continue to develop the starch cigarette filter technology and will provide an update when the filtration
trials have reached a more advanced stage.'
No mention in the 2007 report.
greekman
- 12 Apr 2008 17:51
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Hi Oblomov,
I do see to remember a later update when they mentioned a previously proposed interest to sell the technology was disbanded but I can't find such a report. Perhaps someone has kept better records than I have and can clarify.
halifax
- 12 Apr 2008 18:15
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Sounds as though it was stubbed out!
Fred1new
- 12 Apr 2008 18:16
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I think plastic bags and cartons etc, must eventuallly decay, as I haven't seen any plastic bags or containers more than a hundred years old.
8-)
oblomov
- 13 Apr 2008 09:32
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Heres the latest (early March) on the fag butts.
I'm copying a post from PM1's site - I'm sure he won't mind. On the face of it, a reply from Paul Mines on the subject.
'jeffwh
Filters
Hi Paul,
I sent a general enquiry this morning to Head Office asking them if any matter concerning the Filter technology would be appearing in the results due in 10 days time.
I received the following reply from Mr Mines
Jeff,
Thanks for your words of encouragement.
Re the cigarette filter technology, my own view is that will take significant resources and time to validate whether the technology is viable and to bring it to market.
At present we have other priorities and are working more actively in other areas.
Regards
Paul
When the time is right and resources and costs allow then we may see a further development, in the meantime Mr Mines and his hard working team are as he says, "working more actively in other areas" hence the shift in investor confidence these past few days.
May they continue the good work.'
posted Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:58 pm
moneyplus
- 13 Apr 2008 14:15
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Thanks Oblomov--it's good they haven't given up on it.
tweenie
- 15 Apr 2008 15:57
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I would have expected the share to steadily tick up towards the AGM.
It would appear that either the mm's are holding out or theres just no confidence left even by the day traders.
Hopefully will be at the AGM subject to missus letting me off lease unsupervised.
:-)
greekman
- 15 Apr 2008 17:50
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OB,
Did you need the straight jacket prior to the AGM opening or was it required after you lost your rag at the Management.