Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

What about making it law you have to vote ?

We didn't run up too much debt when we were in Government, says Balls (so what IS he on?) The same as what Fred is on.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2335438/Ed-Balls-Labour-didnt-run-debt-Government.html

Interesting from the above Fred (no comment I suspect ?) -

Mr Balls's words came as a poll showed just 30 per cent of voters think Labour can be trusted with the economy.

so tell me fred, whose policies do you consider would be better? ..... so far, we have heard your perpetual strident criticisms but no support of any proposed by anyone else ..... or is that because no other party of any hue has put forward a credible alternative?

btw, i assume you excuse yourself from the tribal mob of the self-opinionated, the secondary-modern mobsters, the bash street kids or any other grouping social or otherwise .... no doubt you're an island unto yourself (except no man shall be), or is that because no one else will invite you to join their gang (not even gary glitter) :-)

Fred just want's to sit in his chair and not vote and then just go on and on about how the government have it so wrong. I do not know how close the picture resembles Fred.
:-))

My view on voting - So when people don’t bother, men or women, they are taking democracy for granted. It doesn’t matter that you may disagree with all the political parties. You may be thoroughly fed up with the whole political system. If so, then go and at least spoil your ballot paper - draw a silly cartoon on it. Do anything on it (well not quite anything). But at least go to the polling station.

Should be compulsory in the UK to vote

Compulsory Voting

Australia is Well-Known for its Compulsory Voting Laws

One of the most well-known compulsory voting systems is in Australia. All Australian citizens over the age of 18 (except those of unsound mind or those convicted of serious crimes) must be registered to vote and show up at the poll on election day

Fred would still escape. :-))

http://geography.about.com/od/politicalgeography/a/compulsoryvote.htm

Australia doesn't enforce the compulsory voting laws with any effort. Theoretically it is A$20 if you don't vote and A$50 if it goes to court. About 4% of people refuse to vote and almost none get fined.

Dreams,

You do seem a tacky little man with the talents and humour of the overgrown school boy behind the bicycle shed.

Be careful or you nanny may tell you off.

But do carry on with your dreams.

However, I think it wiser not to expose your phantasy too much, as they may be considered projections.

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Manuel,

Read some of my previous postings.

(I repeat myself too often, and trying not to do it too often, but notice this is a failing in you more often than myself.)

In some posting you may find, I have agreed some of the intentions and even policies of the present Con party’s government. However, with the present rotten crew of failures, it has been less frequent than with previous tory administrations.

Much of the actions of Cameron and Osborne have introduced have been short term and self serving and in their own political interest. (Hence the u-turns carried out when they find the public disagree with the policies.)

If you read back you will read that I disagreed with many of the Blair and Brown government’s policies and actions. I certainly disagreed with the actions and policies of many previous labour governments.

I did have a sneaking respect for the Lib/Dems, and understand the difficulties with choosing to, or not to, form a coalition government in 2010. Still respect a few of their policies and member, but one or two leave me cold.

You may be able to read the "article" indicated. (It is too difficult for the nightmare to understand. )

It in one way summarised my scepticism and disillusionment with politics.


"A crisis of legitimacy"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/23/britain-divided-social-inequality

Don't be nasty Fred. lol .If one dishes it out, one had better learn to take the medicine back. :-))

so fred, who do you currently think has any viable alternative economic alternative? ...... as far as i can still determine, you think no one .... that being so, shut up and put up with what you've condemned yourself to by refusing to vote

Cynic,

If you managed to read the previous, another and perhaps more pertinent article by Andrew Rawnsley is :-
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/23/tories-alternative-queens-speech

He is quite amusing, but very observant of weaknesses.

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you do not answer my question above .... i may not bother to read articles, but single sentences i can usually manage .... so try again fred .... what party do you think has a viable alternative to the present crew?

Dreams,

If you contain your postings to argument rather puerile attempts at personal abuse, I will attempt to do the same.

Disagreeing with me, or being me being proved wrong, does not aggrieve, but silly abuse often irritates me.


Hence my responses.
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Cynic,

Read back and you will read suggestions I have made for the direction of stimuli for the UK economy for the last three years.

Belatedly, Porky is probably going to do so. The cost of which due to probable interest rises in the near future will be greater.

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PS.

Unlike me, it seems to me you afford more importance and influence of my vote than I do.

But would suggest a check up, your memory seems to be fading.

fred - i suggest you tell us all - for we all hang on your every pearl - which party you currently think has a viable economic alternative to the present .... your current wiffle-waffle implies that your answer will be "NONE!"

Actually, if the two clowns who wrote the Grauniad articles referred to by Old Bollock Chops in posts 26357 and 26362 above had bothered to do their homework properly (instead of relying upon the bog-standard socialist rhetoric), they would be well aware that the standard measure of social inequality (the Gini Coefficient) produces results concluding that inequality is at its lowest at the end of a recession (ie. right now), and at its highest at the end of a boom (ie. around the time Blair quit, and well before Gordon the Moron lost the last election).

Despite their reputation to the contrary, it looks like the Bullingdon Boys are actually doing a very good job of caring for the more vulnerable in society!

Fred,

If you're gonna spout crap, please try to ensure that it's factually accurate crap!

Cynic

Read the article by Rawnsley, interesting exposure of tory party politics.

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Lady Godiva has been revived.


Shame.

Being serious Fred, are you just playing a wind up game on here. I have been here for about two years. Nearly every posting by you runs out and makes fun of David C or the conservative party. Yes. So would it not be rather strange for you to vote the cons ? I think certainly yes. You never put up a comic picture against the labour party or to me disagree with their objectives. So to me you come across as a strong labour supporter. So with the cons appearing to wind you up all the time, what stops you from walking to the pole station and putting a cross against any other party other than the cons, when they get up your nose, so to speak.

fred - you clearly need your own political party, as just like a politician, you refuse to answer a simple question ..... frightfully dull of you, but as is so often so, i listen for what is not said