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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

dealerdear - 17 Sep 2008 09:11 - 2638 of 21973

selftrade can't cope with this and has crashed again

Falcothou - 17 Sep 2008 09:21 - 2639 of 21973

Wierd, re-test of the lows after 15 minute rally! Volatility you got it! Pairs trade long ftse/short dax at least doesn't get you stopped out !

Toya - 17 Sep 2008 10:15 - 2640 of 21973

Just checking in briefly to see what's going on - glad I closed my ftse position this morning before going out, having taken a modest profit. Pity I couldn't stay to watch the fun.

HARRYCAT - 17 Sep 2008 12:31 - 2641 of 21973

Selftrade now not monitoring limit or stop loss orders due to high volume.
Just sit on the phone for 20 minutes trying to execute!

dealerdear - 17 Sep 2008 12:37 - 2642 of 21973

Selftrade has been down since about 9am.

Can anybody recommend any other broker?

Stan - 17 Sep 2008 12:42 - 2643 of 21973

Relatively speaking Barclays without doubt.

dealerdear - 17 Sep 2008 13:14 - 2644 of 21973

Thanks Stan

HARRYCAT - 17 Sep 2008 14:16 - 2645 of 21973

I am sure about an hour ago when I checked, DOW futures were -30. Now they are -150. Brace yourselves!

cynic - 17 Sep 2008 14:22 - 2646 of 21973

housing starts were vile .... now -174 and prob overdone

stroreysj - 17 Sep 2008 14:42 - 2647 of 21973

oh poo waterhouse didnt fill my order at 99 for HBOS, despite being 88. Retail investor stuffed again. Oh well back to drawing board. who was it that said there was no risk anymore and the market was going up. Money funds are hitting the wall next and will be in a tailspin after the weekend. At least the golf was good

dealerdear - 17 Sep 2008 14:47 - 2648 of 21973

Bloomberg has just announced that naked short selling in the US will be banned on ALL stocks from midnight tonight.

HARRYCAT - 17 Sep 2008 14:51 - 2649 of 21973

About time! Shorting actual stock is just about acceptable. Shorting a stock without actually borrowing it first is unethical, imo, as the shorter has no interest in the company itself.

Strawbs - 17 Sep 2008 14:53 - 2650 of 21973

Any idea what the percentages are for "naked short selling"?

Just wondering if it will make a material difference or not.

Strawbs.

cynic - 17 Sep 2008 14:54 - 2651 of 21973

str ..... prob not fair as for an awful lot of the time - i.e. 95% - sp was in backwardation

dealerdear - 17 Sep 2008 14:57 - 2652 of 21973

Is naked short selling illegal here, anybody know?

Strawbs - 17 Sep 2008 14:59 - 2653 of 21973

Depends if you're working in an open office or not.....what people do in their own home is their business.... :-)

strawbs.

HARRYCAT - 17 Sep 2008 15:12 - 2654 of 21973

As far as I am aware, naked shorting is an acceptable practise in the U.K.

stroreysj - 17 Sep 2008 15:17 - 2655 of 21973

A Little bit of humour

Two young ladies go for a stroll in the forest and come across a frog

Frog - 'hello young ladies I know i look like a frog but I am really an investment banker and if you kiss me i will turn back into one'

Lady one - bends down picks up the frog but rather than kiss it puts it in her bag and walks off

Lady two - 'why did you put the frog in your bag - if you kiss him he will turn into an investment banker'

Lady 1 - ' dont be silly in todays market he is far more valuable as a talking frog'

dealerdear - 17 Sep 2008 15:23 - 2656 of 21973

Ho ho. Thanks Harry.

ps Selftrade has just come back on-line. Cost me 100 though as my profit in a cy has now almost disappeared so I'm well P**ed off!

Falcothou - 17 Sep 2008 16:17 - 2657 of 21973

Go up in the hills for a few hours and come back to carnage market neutral pairs trading is the only way to go if away from the screen
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