goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Haystack
- 27 Jun 2013 18:52
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Not the Queen's business empire, but the crown estates which includes parts of the coastline and other land and property. The profit goes to the government, but there is an allowance of 15% of the profit that goes to the royal purse. As the crown estate has made more money this last year, there is a corresponding increase in the money paid to the queen. The arrangement was in return for the sovereign giving their holdings of land etc to the state. As has been made clear the increase is to be spent on building work at Buckingham Palace and Windsor.
goldfinger
- 27 Jun 2013 19:31
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So its the Government who pays for Building work at BP and Windsor (through Crown Estate) and the queen pockets a 5% increase. ?? In other words her 15% allowance has been raised by 5% year on year.
In other words after the Queens 15% (which has been inflated 5%) the rest of the 5% increase the government have recieved is spent on the 2 buildings.
She still has a net 5% increase which to me seems very unfair given that 'we are all in this together'.
Haystack
- 27 Jun 2013 19:43
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No, the increase is partly to pay for the building work. The 15% is the percentage of the profit that the queen gets. The 5% is the amount that the figure has increased. The money is to maintain the monarch. It cover her royal household etc. It is not money that is personally for her like a salary. She had her own money that is invested amounting to around £200m I believe.
goldfinger
- 27 Jun 2013 20:06
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Well yes Hays that I took for granted but why a 5% INCREASE, THATS WAY ABOVE INFLATION AND WAY ABOVE WHAT THE REST OF US HAVE HAD TO ACCEPT.
Its wrong. She should be tightening the monarchy budget and yes I know she has done for the last few years, but weve all had to tighten our budgets since 2008.
She should dip into her personal fortune or that of Charles if she wants to spend above cost of living standards.
Its certainly not giving out the right vibes to her subjects.
cynic
- 27 Jun 2013 20:11
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hays - you're an ass .... why on earth do you keep taking the bait?
Haystack
- 27 Jun 2013 20:12
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The increase is automatic as the royal purse just gets 15% of the profit from the crown estate. The profit of it rose by 5% so the queen's share rose 5%. She is still getting 15% of the profit, but it is bigger.Why should she pay personally to pay for the monarchy. It would be like telling someone rich who worked for ICI to help the company out. She is effectively an employee. The money she gets runs the monarchy. It is not for her.
Haystack
- 27 Jun 2013 20:13
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cynic
For amusement!
doodlebug4
- 27 Jun 2013 22:27
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"Its certainly not giving out the right vibes to her subjects." I think considering that she's still working her blooming socks off for this country at the age of 87 - or whatever she is - and has never, ever put a foot wrong during her time as our monarch, she's entitled to a little pay rise. The "subjects" who object to the monarchy in this country can never come up with a better alternative. Why on earth do you think that tourists come to this country each year just to watch the trooping of the colour. You don't object when your football tickets go up by 5% year after year - you still go and watch these overpaid, brainless muppets.
goldfinger
- 27 Jun 2013 23:26
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Hays once again you conflict your side of the debate and stand on your own toes....
Haystack- 27 Jun 2013 19:43 - 26494 of 26499
It cover her royal household etc. It is not money that is personally for her like a salary. She had her own money that is invested amounting to around £200m I believe.
THEN WE GET THE CONFLICT
Haystack - 27 Jun 2013 20:12 - 26497 of 26499
She is effectively an employee...............
NOW COME ON HAYS MAKE YOUR MIND UP.
What you are really saying she is in charge of the monarchy and accepting a 5 % increase to manage the monarchy, but why on earth should the monarchy get an increase above inflation.
The Torries want caps, the monarchy should be capped to a level of inflation.
I can tell you now their is an awful lot of unrest on twitter tonight over this 5 % increase.
Ohh and by the way inform your faggot mate to shut up.
goldfinger
- 27 Jun 2013 23:35
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By the way will someone inform doodlebug I filtered him weeks back. No doubt hes once again proving what an uneducated idiot he is.
As usual he'l have looked at half the story and hasnt read my opening post were I declare I am a Royalist.
Haystack
- 27 Jun 2013 23:38
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What does it matter what is on twitter as they and you are all twits.
MaxK
- 27 Jun 2013 23:51
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Yes, but twits find this sort of thing very important.
Haystack
- 28 Jun 2013 00:02
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Of course.
goldfinger
- 28 Jun 2013 02:11
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Haystack - 27 Jun 2013 23:38 - 26502 of 26504
What does it matter what is on twitter as they and you are all twits. ...........
ohhh indeed, that will include George Osbourne, David Cameron Teresa May and other front benchers, then will it.
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Walked onto my trap Hays. hook line and sinker.
Osbourne in fact the idiot posted a photo of himself eating a £10 burger yesterday evening. What austerity.
Hays keep off the hard stuff, your liver let alone your heart could get damaged.
Haystack
- 28 Jun 2013 02:34
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Why should he eat cheap food? Views on twitter have little importance no matter who posts them.
goldfinger
- 28 Jun 2013 05:07
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Thats strange, you called them all twits on post 26502.
You obviously didnt know your heroes had accounts on twitter.
Fred1new
- 28 Jun 2013 08:50
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Hays,
P 26507
"Why should he eat cheap food?"
He shouldn't be allowed food at all.
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I wonder what the true cost of the pomp and ceremony is to this country?
Is it necessary?
I don't see the necessity for and admit I little attachment to the Royal family as individuals, I would not wish to enjoy their style of life.
However, I do find the various "hanger ons" with their various perks and unpaid for "advantages", paid for by the taxes of others, less than attractive.
Feel that if "Royalty" is so advantageous to the UK, it should be put under commercial management.
Hays, I think of you are a tory party "hanger on", but suspect you wish to bend you knees and touch your hat to "Ma'am".
Something to do the "old school" days.
Fred1new
- 28 Jun 2013 08:53
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For Manuel and Nightmare.
Sums up true old boys relationships.
Fred1new
- 28 Jun 2013 09:01
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Tory reactionaries longing for the "old days".
Not sure what they are up to.
skinny
- 28 Jun 2013 09:11
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