irlee57
- 13 Aug 2007 09:03
any comments, thoughts, on this stock.
Big Al
- 21 Sep 2007 13:46
- 265 of 1029
Pretty much sums it up, Harry
Guscavalier
- 21 Sep 2007 14:03
- 266 of 1029
sorry cynic, I just got back, degzy1 understands, stick with him.
cynic
- 21 Sep 2007 16:14
- 267 of 1029
never apologise, especially to me - lol! .... i am def in here only for the day as goodness knows what the w/e press will have to say, be it good or bad
Big Al
- 21 Sep 2007 16:18
- 268 of 1029
I've bought a few more this afternoon. ;-0
cynic
- 21 Sep 2007 16:21
- 269 of 1029
i dithered this morning so bought at 195 when could have got in well below that ...... only a fairly modest stake, and just a rather silly gamble
Big Al
- 21 Sep 2007 16:27
- 270 of 1029
Indeed it is high risk, cynic. ;-0
hangon
- 21 Sep 2007 16:30
- 271 of 1029
The press is largely to blame for the collapse IMHO - looking at the accounts last year, did anyone notice an enormous hole? Of course not, because there isn't one -
+ The issue of savers queueing was largely Government posturing.
Now, the issue is what is a fair-value and can the Brand continue?
Perhaps we should ask the questions the other way round . . .
1) it will continue, since it will be able to find funds at higher rates - there is always a loan available at the right price.....so does this mean NRK is non-profitable? I dount this as the Bank rates appear to be reducing, firstly in USA and probably here, too. Furthermore, new property is still available at slight discounts so making the Mortgage more-affordable.
It will be interesting to see how this goes...but my money is on the Weekend papers bashing NRK....not for any good reason ( like they have been saying so for the past year!)...but simply becaause Press Freedon allows them to.
I don't think this is in the Public Interest as it undermines the saving, home-ownership etics of Society as a whole. Was it so wrong to fund home-ownership with funds from the cheapest source - of course not.....in retrospect they should have made them much more "variable" so large changes in the wholesale money-markets would protect the scheme.....and maybe that was where the Execs were at fault (if indeed this is the case, I do not know the fine-print)...
If wholesale money-markets rose again....would the government allow NRK to fail? I suspect the answer is yes, since they can see a clear distinction between an average Joe that invests 5k in a savings account and a Jack that buys 5k's worth. . . . personally I see no difference, both expect to receive dividends and one is trying to remove the long-term effects of inflation. No-one invests in Banks for a quick buck.
2) Now, what's NRK worth? - I find it difficult to suggest much more than 2 current sp. . . yet only recently (before the queues), it was nearly 8 - so maybe the 6 is all hype (or hope?)...or was it real...these questions are almost impossible to answer....just shows how Government Bungling can put paid to investments.
Ah well, time for the medicine, nurse. Two I think.
cynic
- 21 Sep 2007 16:46
- 272 of 1029
if "the press is largely to blame for the collapse", how can you then say NRK is now worth little or nothing "much more than 2"?
Big Al
- 21 Sep 2007 17:02
- 273 of 1029
I think, as has become the norm in recent years, that hedge funds get a wee bit over-excited. At some point, however, they have to cover. ;-)) At the end of the day NRK are not bust as far as I know.
cynic
- 21 Sep 2007 17:17
- 274 of 1029
they may not be bust, but they're certainly a busted flush ...... and i was very naughty and did not close out this afternoon ..... deserve to get punished for lack of discipline but may get lucky
explosive
- 21 Sep 2007 18:19
- 275 of 1029
I also got in today at 186 and hope to get lucky..... Small stake only but worth the gamble I think...
cynic
- 21 Sep 2007 18:42
- 276 of 1029
right sort of price though 170/175 was briefly on offer .... 195 for me was a bit stupid, but may well get away with it
lex1000
- 21 Sep 2007 22:01
- 277 of 1029
Good evening Cynic, confessions of a gambler.remember you saying similar re:TAN. Why not live dangerously- you obviously addicted to the adrenaline rush.regards lex;o)
cynic
- 22 Sep 2007 06:55
- 278 of 1029
one has to be a gambler to play with shares anyway, and anyone who professes otherewise fools themselves.
Stan
- 22 Sep 2007 09:18
- 279 of 1029
"one has to be a gambler to play with shares"
The confusion between "Risk Taking" and "Gambling" is a common one sadly IMHO.
mitzy
- 22 Sep 2007 10:24
- 280 of 1029
Gambling only pays when your winning.
cynic
- 22 Sep 2007 14:49
- 281 of 1029
Stan .... elucidate please
aldwickk
- 22 Sep 2007 15:25
- 282 of 1029
Shares are not as risky as horse racing ect: you don't find many shares that you put money on at 2.30pm and lose it all at 3 pm. or on the spin of a wheel.
Look how many chances holders of SEO had of cutting their loses to name just one, ok then EEL, ARX, NRK....... don't remind of the ruin that was left of poor old GEC 12 down to 4p thats what price i sold at i can't believe how stupid i was .
janetbennison
- 22 Sep 2007 15:35
- 283 of 1029
cynic and all day traders I have lost out on this one quite badly. I bought last friday think they were cheap at 4.65. Sat on them over the weekend and on monday lost thousands. If you leave a stop loss and the price opens a lot lower ie approx. 1.65 lower. the broker will close your position at the lower price. The only way around this is to get a gauranteed stop loss. I have become a pathological gambler. To find out what this actually means have a look at website - Day traders and pathological gambling. I think you will all find this very interesting reading. the article is by Ken Search,LCSW., I thought this was excellent reading. It will only take you five mins to read this. and is very true on all comments made. let me know your views. Good luck all on monday. by they way, I did nearly buy all my nrk back on friday and double up, but did not. I did not want to put myself through the stress over the weekend after the last weekend result.
maestro
- 22 Sep 2007 17:14
- 284 of 1029
couldn't believe friday...went long thursday and up 20pts early friday only to crash back through my stop loss and end up 10pts down in about 3 mins...managed to buy long again at 183 and get some of my losses back but overall on the week about 50pts down...nevermind made it back with CART and SBT