wilbs
- 07 Jul 2004 19:47
The main activity of Biofuels is the large scale production and exploitation of biodiesel and glycerine following the construction and commissioning of the initial plant.
Biodiesel is produced from vegetable oils and, as an environmentally friendly product, can make a significant contribution towards reducing green house gases and meeting Kyoto targets.

RNS's from BFC can be viewed at:
http://www.uk-wire.com/cgi-bin/index?search_type=3&words=bfc&go.x=17&go.y=8
http://www.biofuelscorp.com/
wilbs
- 09 May 2005 12:24
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Interesting point SD.
What would you use? Palm or Jatropha?
I have tried to find out prices on both but not having much luck.
The EU biofuels policy currently relies on an assumption that the heavily-subsidised cultivation of rapeseed will meet its biodiesel targets. However, this is a very large assumption. Already some 3 million hectares of agricultural land across the EU, an area roughly the size of Belgium, grows 10 millon tonnes of rapeseed. But since just 20% of this is ultimately used for biodiesel as opposed to food oil, another whole Belgium would have to be covered in the yellow rapeseed blanket to meet the targets. Rapeseed tires the land, and requires expensive crop rotation and fossil-based fertilisers. Growing rapeseed also has an opportunity cost of preventing farmers from growing more environmentally-friendly, less intensive, and often more profitable produce such as cereals or organic root vegetables. Under these circumstances, the supply of rapeseed oil is unlikely to be able meet the demand
Jatropha grows quickly, is hardy, establishes itself easily even in arid land, and is drought-tolerant, requiring only 300mm of annual rainfail. It grows especially well in South and West Africa, and South East Asia. Jatropha can even be grown on semi-arid land using waste water, making it a useful tool in the prevention of desertification. Each Jatropha tree can produce an average of 3.5 kilos of beans each year depending on irrigation levels.
Editor's Note: Jatropha is an example of a plant that could be grown even if it didn't yield biofuel. It is useful for restoring soil, combatting desertification, and providing fertilizer. It requires minimal inputs of water and grows in extremely poor soil.
Any plant that is a cash crop anyway and costs almost nothing to grow can't be a bad candidate for an economically viable biofuel. Distilleries for biofuel exist throughout the world; biofuel is a form of solar energy harvested from the land, and wherever land and water are abundant, biofuel is cheap and the flow never wanes.
In Africa, India, Asia and the Americas, Jatropha is one of the most promising feedstocks in what is becoming a worldwide biofuel bonanza. Europeans are planting and investing in Jatropha fields in all these places and elsewhere.
If 2,200 Jatropha trees are planted per hectare, each hectare could yield up to 7 tonnes of beans per annum. Jatropha beans can produce oil yields of up to 40%
wilbs
wilbs
- 09 May 2005 12:38
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By all accounts, palm oil is destroying the rain forests so in my book, jatropha is the best option in producing biodiesel. I would be interested in the price comparisons for all three and why BFC chose palm.
http://www.foe.co.uk/resource/reports/greasy_palms_summary.pdf
BTW, DOO are down 7.25%
wilbs
tallsiii
- 09 May 2005 16:34
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Here's something no one has mention yet...
at a 95p buy price the company is valued at about 43m. They recently raised 30m. Back in Sept 04 they had 6m cash which they have probably spent by now.
So it looks to me like the SP can't logically go below about 70p.
At the current SP if you strip out the cash the company is valued at 13m. If they get anywhere near their forecast of 14m profit per annum, then the potential upside from here is huge.
I have jumped back in!!!
gallick
- 09 May 2005 16:44
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Good call tallsii. I am close to doing the same. I think we are entering the "revulsion stage", where all those hardbitten investors who waited for the turn have finally thrown in the towel. That's the time to buy. Hope to buy tomorrow, just hope there isn't a big bounce before I get in.
rgrds
gk
tallsiii
- 09 May 2005 16:49
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If you check the trades you'll a massive sell that went though late in the day. I think there will still be volume for you to buy tomorrow.
Also, I think one of the things that has really hammered the price is the stock overhang that was generated when the new issue was not fully taken up. It was underwriten and I guessing the underwriter has been trying to recover some money.
stockdog
- 09 May 2005 16:54
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Consider me revolted, gallick. Too sick to sell now, at any rate, although pretty much all square on this share having sold 1/3 of holding at the very top. Should have sold it all then and ducked the rights issue, according to my friend Hindsight who always has invaluable (quite so!) advice.
SD
belisce6
- 09 May 2005 20:29
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in regards to the pricing of the diesel....i recall reading something in the Shares mag "Blue skies" issue some months ago, that there was some kind of discount or rebate to BFC per/litre from the UK government, so that it could be kept below the price of normal environmentally unfriendly diesel......need to dig out that copy of Shares mag......
i have previously quickly researched myself (as i was about to invest in Australian Renewable Fuels float in Aus.) and found in AFR's prospectus some useful info on the ins and outs of the type of oil source used - as many of these plant oils still do create some greenhouse gases (i think), and so there is some order of ranking in regards to which is best etcetc.
From memory, jatropha is best, then it's rapeseed, then palm or the other way around, then sunflower, and somewhere down the list was tallow (basically beef lard/fat - which AFR is going to use)
You'll find this info in their prospectus (rather than relying on my memory), on the following site;
http://www.arfuels.com.au/default.asp?V_SITE_ID=1
At this low sp for BFC, i also think that it's a good opp. to get in.
belisce6
- 09 May 2005 22:01
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from page 17, 03feb05 shares mag;
"This month the government introduced a 20p per litre tax discount in the UK for biodiesel, which is mostly made from palm oil.
This subsidy is worth over 50 million per year to Biofuels. The aid is needed because it is more expensive to convert vegetable oil than mineral oil into diesel. Conventional diesel would have to rise 50% to close the gap."
wilbs
- 09 May 2005 22:56
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Current UK Government policy
The UK Government has recognised that there is a strong case for biofuels, and has put in place a duty reduction (derogation) of 20pence per litre for both bioethanol and biodiesel. The duty on fossil based road fuels is currently 49.1pence per litre (click here for details).
However those interested in developing a large scale biofuels industry in the UK, using UK sourced raw materials, have calculated that at least a further 8pence per litre reduction in duty is required (click here for details). northeast biofuels support this view.
Investment in domestic biofuels production facilities is taking place, but is based on using waste cooking oils and tallow (click here for details), and importing raw materials such as palm and soy oils (click here and also here for details).
A Government consultation on biofuels was held during 2004 (click here for details), lead by the Department for Transport. This helped clarify the desirability of further Government support.
A recent EU directive has set reference values (non-mandatory) for member states to achieve 2% biofuels use in transport by 2005 and 5.75% by 2010. It is widely accepted that the UK will not meet the headline target for 2005, but biofuels have the potential to contribute towards it. EU Governments were required to announce their approach, in the form of indicative targets to meeting these reference values, by early July 2004.
wilbs
wilbs
- 10 May 2005 08:19
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Nice tick up. DOO heading south.
wilbs
tallsiii
- 10 May 2005 10:53
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We seem to be up of the lows of yesterday. I think if the market can hold today, then we might have seen a solid bounce.
Sold my DOO yesterday and am very glad.
Stan
- 10 May 2005 11:47
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If anyone wants an example of having (and more Importantly Implementing It) a tight stop loss then I think this has been It.
wilbs
- 11 May 2005 06:02
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BFC have re-vamped their web site. Some upto date pictures too.
http://www.biofuelscorp.com/index.html
wilbs
wilbs
- 11 May 2005 10:13
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About time we saw a blue day!!
wilbs
tallsiii
- 11 May 2005 10:47
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Another large protected sell went through last night after 16:30, but the market still opened up. Looks promising. It we can do the same thing today tomorrow morning, then we're really on the way.
wilbs
- 11 May 2005 11:05
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Hopefuly the bad run is over and now we see the rise.
Im not sure if this has been posted on here before but its a good site to check out, I belive BFC are part to the cluster.
http://www.northeastbiofuels.com/index.htm
wilbs
stockdog
- 11 May 2005 11:33
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The only fuels company listed as a member is Petroplus, wilbs. Surprised not to see BFC and DOO both in there.
SD
wilbs
- 11 May 2005 12:39
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My mistake. I misread an article on the web about BFC and Northeast biofuels.
wilbs
Master RSI
- 11 May 2005 13:45
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Posted earlier somewere else...
Master RSI - 11 May'05 - 12:32 - 2496 of 2508 edit
Charts saying bottom reached for the moment being.
Signs:
1- Second day on the up
2- At the bottoms of the Bollinger bars
3- Oversold at Indicators RSI and Stochastic
4- Signs of MACD turning
5- As ussual after a large drop, there is a bounce back
stockdog
- 11 May 2005 16:02
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Thanks, Master RSI for that positive note.
sd