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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred1new - 28 Jun 2013 09:38 - 26510 of 81564

Skinny,

Repetitious. Leave it to Dreams

skinny - 28 Jun 2013 09:39 - 26511 of 81564

"Repetitious" - really Fred - how sweetly ironic.

doodlebug4 - 28 Jun 2013 10:12 - 26512 of 81564

To gf - from "an uneducated idiot". I was educated at a public school in Scotland and manged to get an A-level in English. Having read your posts on various bulletin boards over a period of about 10 years, I have to say my standard of spelling does appear to be a lot better than yours. Perhaps your definition of education is different from mine. Don't bother to respond as a little bird told me you have me filtered.:-)

Fred1new - 28 Jun 2013 11:46 - 26513 of 81564

Db4,

I think GF, like myself, may have/or had to put up with "dyslexia". Also, I think he uses "texting" type and short cuts.

It was a curse to me when I was young, but found ways of getting around the problem.

Thanks to word processors and computers there has been some improvements, also I like "game playing" and getting around "problems" became a fun rather than a drudge.

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But something I was reading a couple of days ago perhaps made me think of education in another way.

"Mark Twain , grand écrivain Américain, nous informe que la bonne éducation consiste à concilier le grand bien que nous pensons de nous-mêmes avec le peu de bien que nous pensons des autres."

Funny old B.

Fred1new - 28 Jun 2013 11:48 - 26514 of 81564

PS.

GF may be caught up with the "idea" than the "painting" of the "process".

TANKER - 28 Jun 2013 11:51 - 26515 of 81564

'They did what they wanted with me - no matter how disgusting': Victim of Oxford sex gang talks of her three-year nightmare
Katie was academically gifted and dreamed of becoming a forensic scientist
At the age of 12 two Pakistani brothers befriended her

She was completely unaware she was being groomed for sexual exploitation

For almost three years she was violently and sexually abused by a gang
She was also sold for sex on hundreds of occasions to child abusers


Liverpool Rochdale Blackburn telford Glasgow London now oxford
what kind of people are these scum . how were they brought up

Fred1new - 28 Jun 2013 11:52 - 26516 of 81564

How were you brought up?

TANKER - 28 Jun 2013 11:53 - 26517 of 81564

our children are not safe on the streets of the uk

TANKER - 28 Jun 2013 11:56 - 26518 of 81564

fred by good parents I have never broken the law and help people
and next month I give my 100th pint of blood

doodlebug4 - 28 Jun 2013 11:59 - 26519 of 81564

Fred - post 26515 - I take your point.

TANKER - 28 Jun 2013 12:03 - 26520 of 81564

are posters on here saying it does not bother them that children are not safe in the uk . and raping them and abusing them is ok .

it makes me feel sick to see it as headlines in the papers
evil people walking our streets looking for children .

Fred1new - 28 Jun 2013 12:07 - 26521 of 81564

Tanker.

You are a big man.

Ask them to take 8 pints at your next visit.

You won't notice the difference when you replace it with an intake of beer and froth.

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TANKER - 28 Jun 2013 12:13 - 26522 of 81564

fred you must be a lefty only a LABOUR voter would think it normal

TANKER - 28 Jun 2013 12:14 - 26523 of 81564

with labour votes like you we can now see why they left the uk in a big mess .

TANKER - 28 Jun 2013 13:47 - 26524 of 81564

why does it upset people to post true facts not fiction .
the police MPs must address and remove this treat on our streets .

skinny - 28 Jun 2013 13:51 - 26525 of 81564

Freudian?

TANKER - 28 Jun 2013 13:58 - 26526 of 81564

unintentional
I think not

MaxK - 28 Jun 2013 13:58 - 26527 of 81564






Guardian robot baffled by Generation Y's embrace of Thatcherism.

Does not compute. Does not compute

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By Toby Young Politics Last updated: June 26th, 2013

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100223531/guardian-robot-simply-cannot-understand-why-generation-y-arent-all-good-socialists-does-not-compute-does-not-compute/



There's a great example in the Guardian this morning of what Americans call "gee whiz" journalism, as in, a piece of news greeted as if it's jaw-droppingly sensational when, to the rest of us is, it's bleedin’ obvious. I'm talking about John Harris's belated discovery that "the yoof" don't share the values of the liberal, Guardian-reading metropolitan elite. Incredible as it may seem, they're not pro-immigration, pro-welfare or pro-redistributive taxation. According to Ipsos MORI, only 20 per cent of 18-34-year-olds agree with the statement "the creation of the welfare state is one of Britain's proudest achievements". How dare they?!? Most amazingly of all – to Harris, anyway – is that Generation Y don't blame the "Con-Dem cuts" for youth unemployment. Haven't they been listening to Len McCluskey?

The most telling passage in the article comes at the end, when Harris meets a 27-year-old in Warrington who's just got a job after a bout of unemployment thanks to the government's Work Programme. Harris asks him whether he thinks his joblessness was his fault.

"Yeah," he says. "I do. I think I should have applied for more. I should have picked myself up in the morning, got out, come to a place like this – tried more. When you're feeling down, you start blaming the world for your mistakes – you feel the world owes you. And it doesn't. You owe the world: you have to motivate yourself, and get out there, and try."

Harris describes this reply as – wait for it – "heartbreaking". Yes, it breaks the Guardianista's heart that this young person doesn't think the world owes him a living. Instead of becoming welfare dependent, trapped for the rest of his life in poverty and despair – as any self-respecting member of the proletariat should, doncha know – he's actually gone out and found himself a job! Oh tempora! Oh mores! What's become of the client state? It's as if 13 years of New Labour never happened.

Harris blames "Thatcherism" for the proletariat's false consciousness – and the fact that Labour hasn't been a proper socialist party since Tony Blair ditched Clause IV. The "up-by-your-boot-straps Conservatism of Norman Tebbit and Margaret Thatcher" (yah, boo, sucks) went "largely unchallenged during the New Labour years" and is now accepted by millions of young people as "a simple matter of fact". Echoes here of red daiper baby Owen Jones, whom Harris singles out (alongside public schoolgirl Laurie Penny) as a beacon of hope amidst all the gloom. Owen thinks "the rightwing media" is to blame for brainwashing the lumpen proles. If only the poor sods read the Guardian or the Independent, then they'd know THE TRUTH which is that the millionaire-Tory-Bullingdon-Boys-ruling-class have a vested interest in keeping them down.

Hmmm. Call me a capitalist running dog, but I can think of another explanation for Generation Y's lack of enthusiasm for the values of John Harris, Owen Jones and public schoolgirl Laurie Penny.

Maybe – just maybe – the reason 18-34-year-olds aren't wild about the consequences of Labour's open-door immigration policy is because they noticed that nine out of ten jobs created under the last government went to foreign-born workers.

Maybe – just maybe – the young residents of towns like Warrington aren't in lockstep with John Harris and Owen Jones and public schoolgirl Laurie Penny when it comes to state hand-outs is because they've witnessed the appalling, destructive, calamitous impact of welfare dependency with their own eyes.

Maybe – just maybe – the reason more 18-24-year-olds say they're going to vote Conservative (31 per cent) than Labour (27 per cent) is because they recognise that Britain wasn't in a great place after 13 years of the other lot in power, that we need to get the deficit under control if we're to avoid joining Ireland, Greece, Portugal, Spain, Italy and (any day now) France in the bankruptcy club and that David Cameron and George Osborne's plan for digging us out of this hole is just a teensy weensy bit more credible than Ed Miliband and Ed Balls's.

No, silly me. It's because they've all been brainwashed by The Sun.

Fred1new - 28 Jun 2013 14:09 - 26528 of 81564

Tanker,

It is not posting the facts but I suspect the intentions behind the postings.

To me it is scapegoating of various groups and attempting envelope other individuals by association.

This appears similar to what the Nazies did in the thirties in order to enabled them to get and keep "power".


They thought it justifiable.

The same pattern of behaviour is seen by some as being utilized by the present right wing faction of the coalition government, in their focussing of publics attention of the "unemployed and minority groups" within the UK society and holding them responsible for their own incompetence and ongoing problems.

This could lead to a more fragmented and "nasty" divided society.

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But that is just my opinion.

TANKER - 28 Jun 2013 14:11 - 26529 of 81564

fred no I just post what I read simple as that bad news must be seen by all
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