Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

why does it upset people to post true facts not fiction .
the police MPs must address and remove this treat on our streets .

Freudian?

unintentional
I think not

Guardian robot baffled by Generation Y's embrace of Thatcherism.

Does not compute. Does not compute




By Toby Young Politics Last updated: June 26th, 2013

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100223531/guardian-robot-simply-cannot-understand-why-generation-y-arent-all-good-socialists-does-not-compute-does-not-compute/



There's a great example in the Guardian this morning of what Americans call "gee whiz" journalism, as in, a piece of news greeted as if it's jaw-droppingly sensational when, to the rest of us is, it's bleedin’ obvious. I'm talking about John Harris's belated discovery that "the yoof" don't share the values of the liberal, Guardian-reading metropolitan elite. Incredible as it may seem, they're not pro-immigration, pro-welfare or pro-redistributive taxation. According to Ipsos MORI, only 20 per cent of 18-34-year-olds agree with the statement "the creation of the welfare state is one of Britain's proudest achievements". How dare they?!? Most amazingly of all – to Harris, anyway – is that Generation Y don't blame the "Con-Dem cuts" for youth unemployment. Haven't they been listening to Len McCluskey?

The most telling passage in the article comes at the end, when Harris meets a 27-year-old in Warrington who's just got a job after a bout of unemployment thanks to the government's Work Programme. Harris asks him whether he thinks his joblessness was his fault.

"Yeah," he says. "I do. I think I should have applied for more. I should have picked myself up in the morning, got out, come to a place like this – tried more. When you're feeling down, you start blaming the world for your mistakes – you feel the world owes you. And it doesn't. You owe the world: you have to motivate yourself, and get out there, and try."

Harris describes this reply as – wait for it – "heartbreaking". Yes, it breaks the Guardianista's heart that this young person doesn't think the world owes him a living. Instead of becoming welfare dependent, trapped for the rest of his life in poverty and despair – as any self-respecting member of the proletariat should, doncha know – he's actually gone out and found himself a job! Oh tempora! Oh mores! What's become of the client state? It's as if 13 years of New Labour never happened.

Harris blames "Thatcherism" for the proletariat's false consciousness – and the fact that Labour hasn't been a proper socialist party since Tony Blair ditched Clause IV. The "up-by-your-boot-straps Conservatism of Norman Tebbit and Margaret Thatcher" (yah, boo, sucks) went "largely unchallenged during the New Labour years" and is now accepted by millions of young people as "a simple matter of fact". Echoes here of red daiper baby Owen Jones, whom Harris singles out (alongside public schoolgirl Laurie Penny) as a beacon of hope amidst all the gloom. Owen thinks "the rightwing media" is to blame for brainwashing the lumpen proles. If only the poor sods read the Guardian or the Independent, then they'd know THE TRUTH which is that the millionaire-Tory-Bullingdon-Boys-ruling-class have a vested interest in keeping them down.

Hmmm. Call me a capitalist running dog, but I can think of another explanation for Generation Y's lack of enthusiasm for the values of John Harris, Owen Jones and public schoolgirl Laurie Penny.

Maybe – just maybe – the reason 18-34-year-olds aren't wild about the consequences of Labour's open-door immigration policy is because they noticed that nine out of ten jobs created under the last government went to foreign-born workers.

Maybe – just maybe – the young residents of towns like Warrington aren't in lockstep with John Harris and Owen Jones and public schoolgirl Laurie Penny when it comes to state hand-outs is because they've witnessed the appalling, destructive, calamitous impact of welfare dependency with their own eyes.

Maybe – just maybe – the reason more 18-24-year-olds say they're going to vote Conservative (31 per cent) than Labour (27 per cent) is because they recognise that Britain wasn't in a great place after 13 years of the other lot in power, that we need to get the deficit under control if we're to avoid joining Ireland, Greece, Portugal, Spain, Italy and (any day now) France in the bankruptcy club and that David Cameron and George Osborne's plan for digging us out of this hole is just a teensy weensy bit more credible than Ed Miliband and Ed Balls's.

No, silly me. It's because they've all been brainwashed by The Sun.

Tanker,

It is not posting the facts but I suspect the intentions behind the postings.

To me it is scapegoating of various groups and attempting envelope other individuals by association.

This appears similar to what the Nazies did in the thirties in order to enabled them to get and keep "power".


They thought it justifiable.

The same pattern of behaviour is seen by some as being utilized by the present right wing faction of the coalition government, in their focussing of publics attention of the "unemployed and minority groups" within the UK society and holding them responsible for their own incompetence and ongoing problems.

This could lead to a more fragmented and "nasty" divided society.

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But that is just my opinion.

fred no I just post what I read simple as that bad news must be seen by all

Tanker read your post 26526 carefully and then you will understand my post 26527!

Fred1new- 28 Jun 2013 11:46 - 26515 of 26532

Db4,

I think GF, like myself, may have/or had to put up with "dyslexia.............ends

Thats true Fred, seemingly for people with diabetes type 1 like I have , your chances of having dyslexia are far greater than the norm in the population.

When taking exams at school and uni I had to put this down on the top of the paper, to let the examiners know.

Whats Db4???????????????

'Mr and Mrs MEP' colouring book becomes surprise hit of EU summit

David Cameron waved a copy of a European Union funded colouring book called "Mr & Mrs MEP" at a summit of Europe's leaders to ram home his demand for cuts to wasteful Brussels spending.



By Bruno Waterfield, Brussels
1:00PM BST 28 Jun 2013


The glossy propaganda booklet, aimed at children under seven and revealed by the Telegraph on Wednesday, became the talking point of an EU summit last night after the Prime Minister brandished it at the dinner table.

"We have got to try and restore a connection with people's ordinary democratic consent. I have to say, people's ordinary democratic consent is frankly not helped by the great findings of Her Majesty's Telegraph this week, which is of course the colour in pattern book of Mr and Mrs MEP, which I shared with some of my other European leaders," he said.

"Actually they were as shocked. First of all they thought it was a hoax done by the Telegraph and I had to convince them that it was a genuine, scandalous waste of money and pretty sexist at that as well because Mrs MEP stops at six o clock to go shopping and Mr MEP goes on until 6:40."

Mr Cameron expressed his hope that Martin Schulz, the speaker of the European Parliament, would bear in mind the anger of EU leaders when the assembly holds a Strasbourg vote next week on reductions to EU spending over the seven years between 2014 and 2020, cuts that are opposed by many MEPs.

The landmark budget deal, hailed by the British leader as major victory at a summit in February, means that next year the EU is to cut its spending for the first time in its 56 year history.


More sprouts here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10148268/Mr-and-Mrs-MEP-colouring-book-becomes-surprise-hit-of-EU-summit.html

GF.

DB4

I was referring in shorthand to Doodlebug 4. (with a smile) (Thinking of Skinny's DB6.)

But I can remember the sounds of them from the 40s.

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I have type 2, but dyslexia is a strange problem and looking at kids growing up I think part of the problem is due to the type of exposure they have in the early years 0-10 when they are help to develop models for understanding and storing "knowledge".

I generally find "processes" easy to remember and "understand", but some data is a difficult recall. (Have to have it written down and often referred to.)

I know only two poems "off by heart" and would make mistakes even with them, but I can remember the "gist" of many others.

Kids development is fascinating.

Doodlebug Ohhhhh ok got him filtered. Should have known hed make a petty remark about spelling.

Was always same on sharecrazy, cocky type who never looked into things from the start and butted in half way through without the full information/story etc etc.

As for dyslexia I just some how have a mental blockage on words that look similar eg, their and there or of and off but loads more. (thats why I cant tell cynic to f--k offff)

Think I would have passed to go to grammar school if school or my parents picked up 0n that I had it.

Wasnt diagnosed until I was 15.

By Allison Pearson
8:28PM BST 15 May 2013
Rochdale, Rotherham, Derby, Oxford. The towns change, but the pattern is always the same. Gangs of men, mainly of Pakistani Muslim heritage, lure white girls as young as 10 with gifts and displays of affection. Next, the girl is raped as a way of “breaking her in”. Once the child’s spirit is subdued, and her mind fogged with drugs, she is sold for sex to multiple men at £200 a time. If the girl tries to break away, a gang member might threaten to behead her or firebomb her home. Mohammed Karrar, who was found guilty in the Oxford sex-grooming case this week, took a scalding hairpin and branded one girl so she would know she was his property. Later, the gang gave the same girl a DIY abortion. She was 12 years old. And this, all this, is happening in Britain now.

In a particularly warped twist, the pimp will teach his victim that her parents are racist towards Asians, which is why they disapprove of their relationship – absolutely nothing, of course, to do with him being a violent,

we let these children down because of racism claims we should of done our jobs


read the telegraph

Protecting NHS, schools and pensioner benefits not 'sustainable', experts say
Protecting the NHS, foreign aid, schools and pensioner benefits from cuts will not be "sustainable" after the next election, experts said today.

I was either craftier, or stupider, I didn't realise until I was in my twenties, having failed and repeated one examination one after another.

Found a solution and by going over to brief point form answers to written questions, even though essay type responses were expected.

Also, the “viva” became more important and suddenly realised I wasn't as stupid as some had thought.


(But my wife still sorts out some of my letters, after I have put the ideas on paper.)

"Was always same on sharecrazy, cocky type who never looked into things from the start and butted in half way through without the full information/story etc etc. "

Actually I never posted, even once, on sharecrazy. I can sympathise with you having dyslexia gf, but I object to the petty, rude remarks you make about various posters who disagree with your views. Sadly it's been your trademark over the years and it's a shame really, because you are quite a good investor/trader. If you didn't have a huge chip on your shoulder you could have contributed so much more to various bulletin boards.

There are quite a few other cases of grooming in the pipeline. I heard today that there is at least 54 other men heading for trial over the next few months.

Is the Cameroon grooming Gove to take over?

Strange goings on at No 10!

West Yorkshire is very bad. Saville Town is terrible.

They set off an airbomb firework(to alert all their mates and customers) when either

A. they have need for clients for girls

B. a new drug shipment has come in.

The police just ignore it, but they know whats going off and so do the local authority but darent do anything for fear of being branded racists. It really is out of control and we are just getting to the tip of the iceberg with recent arrests.

UMHHHHHHHHHHl