THIS SHARE WILL BE WORTH 3.00 IN 2009

Greekman- really!
...( answers to OXB++, on PTI-thread! Sorry)...
There is zero chance GeneThera will bid for OXB -with any hope of success!
GebeThera is a small Bio with hardly any cash and little turnover - Mkt cap is said to be well under $1m- OXB is a Full-List with abt. 50m cash ( That's about 200x the notional value of GeneThera ).
It's a bit like my local Chippy bidding for Macdonalds - it ain't gona happen... Quite why GeneThera sounded-off I don't know; but I'd welcome OXB taking them over...
+The rise in OXB sp is because our MM's think other punters will wake-up to OXB's hidden value.....the Trovax trials are not dead yet....so I topped up at 8p on the bad news a couple of months ago. Due to the falls OXB is no-longer my No1 holding...ahem. OXB trial results are looking dulled, so I don't think we'll see much sp movement - therefore MM's have to stir the pudding.


Protherics appears to be in BID situation, but so far we don't know who! I hope it's not Management - PTI has a decent pipeline, as well as the Rattlesnake product which sells and sells. Previously PTI could command 70p so, today it looks weak...despite the rise...
I can't see BTG being the suitor - they take products and bring them to Market, so if it was a license-deal that might be true....but a Bid?

As for Big Pharma wanting to takeover pipelines - there seems to be no evidence for it, although a few have happened - but no rush, is what I mean -- -some JV, like Sanofi with OXB but they appear to be willing to pay Royalties rather than bid big-cash in one go.
I guess it's cheaper to take smaller bites, which can be financed by Sales.

Any views on Vernalis[VER]-?

The link at post 263 shows some hunger for big pharma takeovers and there are many more articles stating that the pharma industry is the one that is at present possibly the most vulnerable sector to such takeovers.
As to BTG like you I think it doubtful, unless there is a big semi outside backer,(the ever present hedge fund or private backer syndicates could be sniffing around but although possible very doubtful). As to AstraZeneca and BTG they have now been named in several newspapers as possible suiters so I would have thought that they would have released a denial if there was no truth in either being interested. But perhaps I am reading it wrong.

Well we shall see greek man. I hope you are correct!!
Nice bounce following low turnover.

Morning Transco,

As you say a nice bounce back especially with the markets on both sides of the water having a bad day. I for one expected Protherics to finish down the way things were going so yes, only up a tad but nicely unexpected.

Lots of rule 8 releases coming through. Things being sorted as per LSE rules.

I was just thinking about topping up with the sp 5% down less than 15 mins ago when it suddenly plunged to 8% down and counting. Something has no doubt leaked as it did 2 weeks ago.
Looking scary to say the least. Although I still think that the current sp with or without a bid is a bargain, if the market does not agree, I will sit on the proverbial fence to see what crawls out. If that makes sense.

This could be the reason, although I would have thought this would have had all or most of an effect earlier.

FT Comment - Peel Hunt are repeating their scepticism about PTI expressed earlier in the year and at the time of the original announcement.


Doubts about Protherics' takeover talks sent the drugs developer lower by 5.1 per cent to 55p.

AstraZeneca and Nycomed have both been linked with Protherics, which admitted a fortnight ago to receiving approaches. But Paul Cuddon, analyst at KBC Peel Hunt, said AstraZeneca rarely risked buying companies with unproven drugs, while Nycomed had little strategic use for Protherics' cancer and cardiovascular treatments.

More likely, Mr Cuddon said, would be an all-share offer from a peer such as BTG , down 1.2 per cent to 225p. "If indeed a cash bid has been made in excess of our 29p target price, we would urge investors to accept," he said.

How the hell can they justify taking a bid as low as 29p.

Regarding the above. A post on another site has KBC shorting Protherics (anyone have a site that shows if this is correct).

I did wonder if they had an ulterior motive especially when Finncap analyst Keith Redpath has a 100 pence price target on the company, and Seymour who tend to be cautious have a target price of 67p.

Of course any innuendo of bent dealing must be wide of the mark as obviously the market and those who have their fingers in the pie so to speak are whiter than white due to their fear of the LSE and FSA. Aren't they.

Interesting comments Greekman - thanks. I'm still in profit with these but did get a bit nervous yesterday!

Looks like Barclays have a few shorts to cover, (RNS released 1350 hrs, but not on this site).

This does not look good - looks like a slow death.
Its anyones guess what the outcome will be but I don't like the look of the graph!!
PTI has a reputation for letting punter down!

The recent (fantastic!), rise was due to "Bid approach" - and naturally there is a period of excitement - But, slowly folks don't believe a bid will come. However, IF a bid came, it would be below the value the buyer places on the business . . . . so, what value do you think is here?

- - - - - - - - However, the company hasn't changed! - - - - - - - - -

If you liked it before, it's still OK.
FWIW I hold.

As there has been no offer made public yet, I can say with some certainty, it will be on Tuesday 23rd Sept. How do I know, because before the market opens on that day I will be on route to Egypt. The last 3 important milestones in my portfolio companies have all occurred when I have been out the loop so to speak.
Also on return from my last 5 holidays my portfolio has been down.
I am beginning to think it's a conspiracy.

Thanks for letting us know Greekman! Hope you don't miss out while away this time around

Thanks.

A sad sad story ----- its all over for another few years chaps..

My take for what it's worth.

In situations such as this (10% price fluctuation) although as I understand it a company does not have to release a statement, unless instructed by the LSE to do so, they usually do, if only to state, 'The company know of no reason why the price has fluctuated by (such and such) an extent'.
But as due diligence is presumably going on they can not say much else unless any potential approach has been withdrawn.
I also feel the sp drops of late are due to those that thought, 'Takeover offer approach, figures within days, all done and dusted within a week'.
I still strongly believe all still in progress.
Just hope I do not have to eat the proverbial Humble Pie, as if it does fall through, for a while thats all I will be able to afford to eat.

Greekman: our patience rewarded (and before your holiday!) - go to link below for full statement.

The terms of the Recommended Offer have been agreed on the basis of a price of 206 pence for each existing BTG Share and a price of 60 pence for each Protherics Share which values the Protherics Fully Diluted Share Capital at approximately 218.1 million.

On this agreed basis, the Recommended Offer represents a premium of 45.5 per cent. to the Closing Price of a Protherics Share of 41.25 pence on 17 September 2008 (being the Business Day prior to this announcement) and a premium of 92.0 per cent. to the Closing Price of a Protherics Share of 31.25 pence on 12 August 2008 (being the Business Day prior to the announcement by Protherics regarding potential offers for Protherics).


BTG reaches agreement with PTI

Yes as you say before my holiday.
My own personal view is that I would have liked PTI to have gone it alone at least for a few more years. Also it is not yet a done deal, as it is only a recommended deal. Hopefully Acza Zeneca will come back with a better offer although as the deal is recommend and there has been nothing coming out of the Acza camp, it looks like (to my surprise) it is not interested.
At 60p per PTI share I don't think much to it.
Also remember there were others showing interest and as no RNS has been issued stating any have withdrawn interest, methinks a further cash or share deal is still out there.
Keeping very rough figures I find that if deals go through the final figure is usually between a 15% to 25% premium to the initial offer figure. If it becomes a competition of suitors then it is often up to 30%. We can only hope.
Still there won't be much us small holders can do as it will be own to the big boys, although I for one will vote against any deal less than 80p per share.

well 60p but really 50p today - what a waste of effort, just hope thebgc price rises as the market realises its got the sale of the century!!