for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

:-)

Slightly of thread but, most days I also follow SEO trades on Plus Markets. Since they have changed their site it appears I can now only see the last 5 trades. Anyone else notice this.

Heat is Hot again.

Long article that gives a good run down of tray/container/bottle sealing and why the Stanelco Greanseal system and similar technology appears to be dead for the present. It also shows just how much competition is out there.
As it is a long article see link if interested.
http://packagingnews.co.uk/supplychainrfid/news/788223/Heat-hot-again/

Got a reply to my email from SEO this morning:

Dear Neil

Thank you for your e-mail.

Unfortunately we cannot comment on individual customer details due to confidentiality.

Kind regards
Sarah

Looks like they have a customer after all!

I would like to think so, but as I have in the past contacted SEO several times the reply you received is a standard one.
I have queried possible contracts in the past and received the same reply word for word.
But it was worth a go so thanks for trying. At least they did respond which is an improvement on the past, when more often than not inquiries were completely ignored.

Re heat is hot.
Just noticed article was from March 2008. I went by the date at the top (todays date).
Still interesting though.
Apologies re anyone mislead.
Note to self.....Get new glasses.

-Off Topic-

Greekman - do you still use Plus?
Grief it was bad before the recent change, and now is considerably worse...I'm confused by the Plus-listed, Plus Quoted and think it's about time the Authorities forced them to make it clear...some improvement in the screen for listing would help - it's just too much effort, IMHO.

By comparison MoneyAM is a gem, even though it suffers from strange feed-postings, esp US News finding its way onto UK Codes. (because they are similar EPICS), doesn't anyone (here) realise?

-(ends)-

Morning Hangon,

Yes but only to see trades and volumes. I agree since Plus revamped their site things are just as you say too much effort. I cant view more than the last 5 trades for SEO and others.
As to MoneyAm and Epics. I understand that they are trying to fix it.

greek

To view full SEO trades on PLUS.
Go to ADVFN, trades, enter PLUS:SEO.GB

Patisear,

Many thanks. Just tried it.

Greek

A bit of news at last. Now could here be any connection with my 'Stab in the Dark' post of 26612. So often wrong would be nice to be right for a change.

First customer for new/latest technology Furnace.

http://www.stanelcoplc.com/pdf/news/Stanelco-NewGeneration-12-08-08.pdf

Greekman

It would be nice to think that there was a tie up with BT or some other telco, but I suspect that this order went to a University or other research institute to help them draw their own fibers - but of course I could be wrong.

My reason for saying this is that there is not a significant demand for fiber in Europe. Having previously worked in the fiber optics industry I can tell you that nearly every major city in the UK, Europe and most of the western world has more fiber already underground than it can cope with - so-called dark fiber (dark, because it isn't being used). During the early 2000's there was a bit of a boom in installing fiber everywhere while waiting for the telcos to come along and lap it up. They didn't. Which is why the industry saw a lot of redundancies and the mergers of companies such as Alcatel and Lucent. There is still an awful lot of (already drawn) fiber sitting around in warehouses.

Of course, the situation is somewhat different in the emerging economies. So there may still be a tie-up with a telco in Asia, China or South America, where there may still be a demand for more fiber (I can't be sure of that - I was one of those made redundant). Now that would be good news.

StarFrog,

Having no knowledge of the Fiber Optics industry I am obviously not in a position to argue, so I am not going to.
But I did read some time ago (about 2 to 3 years ago when the faster Broadband options were being talked about) that newer more complex (whatever that means) optic cables were required to carry, whatever it is they carry. So if the article was correct it is probable that more are needed.
If you can dig deeper through your past trade re is there a need/requirement for newer more advance cables, I am sure it would be appreciated.

Regards Greek.

Greekman BT announced a few days ago they intend to spend 1.5billion on speeding up their broadband services using fibre optics. Is this what you are alluding to?

Asked Stanelco about this RF issue:

Dear Neil

Thank you for your e-mail.

Unfortunately as previously advised we cannot comment on individual customer contracts due to confidentiality. If we have any news that can be made public it will be displayed on our website or released as an RNS.

Kind regards
Sarah

From: neil
Sent: 13 August 2008 14:21
To: Info
Cc: FD
Subject: RF Contract for BT


Sarah,

Noticed your statement on your web-site:

http://www.stanelcoplc.com/pdf/news/Stanelco-NewGeneration-12-08-08.pdf

BT announced a few days ago they intend to spend 1.5billion on speeding up their broadband services using fibre optics.

Can you confirm that BT or another telecoms company have aquired your new furnace equipment.

Regards
Neil

Hi Greekman

The dark-fiber already in place is well capable of supporting high-speed broadband and anything else you care to throw at it. Data transmission speeds through the fibers are not the bottleneck (data travels at the speed of light and aint gonna get any faster than that!).

Without getting too technical, the throughput problem is about reliably sending a large number of signals down one fiber and then reliably decoding them at the other end, so that you can increase the number of users at any one time. This, I suspect, is what the telcos mean when they are talking about new technology requirements.

Thankfully, the clever boffins are already finding new and better ways to do this (e.g. time domain multiplexing), and so existing fiber can easily service the needs of this and the next generation of telecommunications.

Having said all that, I cannot say with any certainty that SEO aren't about to sell a shed load of fiber furnaces to BT or any other telco. Let us just rejoice in the fact that they have at least managed to sell one!

Halifax,

Yes re BT. See my previous post 26612, I think it is worth a read and possibly relevant to Stanelco's announcement 'Hopefully'!

StarFrog,

Thanks re the info. I live near a fiber optic junction box that is a Kingston Communications System. If I see an engineer I will make some discreet inquiries re any info flying about. I did similar a couple of years ago re another issue and found that sometimes the man on the ground is often in the know.
As the old saying goes.... If you really want to know whats happening, Ask the cleaner or the Tea Lady.

Too true ;-)

From an interesting web site.
http://www.arcelect.com/fibercable.htm

The bit I like is.....Refinements in optical fibers, along with the development of new lasers and diodes, may one day allow commercial fiber-optic networks to carry trillions of bits of data per second.

Perhaps as technology in Fiber Optics improves, there will be a bigger demand for more advances furnaces.
As previously said, I know nothing (as Manuel would say) re the Fiber Optic industry, so don't know what advances there have been over the last few years.

StarFrog,

If you have any contact with ex work mates any chance of a bit of digging. Would be interested what you may come up with.

http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article3245883.ece (using the sewage system for fibre optic roll out)

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080703044033AAcRRsM
(interesting comment in last post from a BT Engineer)

Some more to chew on maybe.....