cynic
- 03 Sep 2008 17:01
- 2668 of 3050
ADRs are what are quoted in NY ... ticker there is SOL
hlyeo98
- 03 Sep 2008 18:11
- 2669 of 3050
Finally, the graph shows my way.
ptholden
- 03 Sep 2008 19:30
- 2670 of 3050
It's called a chart Doh!
And I guess if you wait long enough you might eventually be proven correct. Pity it went up 12-15% first though!
hlyeo98
- 03 Sep 2008 20:19
- 2671 of 3050
I called short at 500p (post 2628). I don't know how that would account for 12-15%. Your maths is certainly Labour's standard.
cynic
- 03 Sep 2008 20:47
- 2672 of 3050
meanwhile, ADRs are -86, which i think is about $0.40 better than at london close, so assuming that holds, SOLA will inevitably open higher in morning
ptholden
- 04 Sep 2008 06:07
- 2673 of 3050
hlyeo98 - 19 Aug 2008 11:32 - 2633 of 2672
Shorters are going to be right, I'm very confident about this...now 461p
Was the post I was referring to - from there up to 530p (ish) intraday, actually worse than 12-15% :)
cynic
- 04 Sep 2008 08:07
- 2674 of 3050
good morning Peter ..... will you still be in the Gulf in late October?
hlyeo98
- 04 Sep 2008 08:08
- 2675 of 3050
SOLA is starting a turn downwards again today.
And I will save my breath with pth. Obviously he can't read post 2628.
HARRYCAT
- 04 Sep 2008 08:34
- 2676 of 3050
Shouldn't worry about it. Don't think pth is comfortable with the principle of shorting.
What's your target, hlyeo? I need to know when to get back in for the 'Up' leg.
cynic
- 04 Sep 2008 08:36
- 2677 of 3050
you're not right harry ....... like myself, i think you will find PTH has made money in both directions here
Toya
- 04 Sep 2008 08:48
- 2678 of 3050
Morning Guys: I reckon 200dma would make it around 400-410p but could go below that to 360p. If you look at the 12-month chart you'll see that 360 has been both support and resistance. However, I'm not brave enough to short it and will wait to see at which level it may bounce - not forgetting newsflow.
Others here are more knowledgeable about charts (I've just learned a bit from them) so I'd take note of what they say here!
ptholden
- 04 Sep 2008 08:52
- 2679 of 3050
Richard - should be back in the cold, wind swept UK by then which will be something of a relief temperature wise. I'll give you call - must sort out this golf match either at your 'place', mine or even both.
Hlyeo - Post 2633 is entirely relevant. Anyone can state a stock is going to go up or down with some certainty they will be right at vague point in the future. Timing is everything and on this occasion you were wrong yet again.
Harry, I'm entirely comfortable with shorting a stock, however, unlike Hlyeo I do attempt to offer targets for any opinions I make and the reasoning for doing so. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong end of. FWIW SOLA remains in an uptrend from March this year which may provide support at 400p, this is the area to watch if the SP continues to weaken. Obviously associate any change in sentiment with indicators, especially volume to determine if a long entry is appropriate.
HARRYCAT
- 04 Sep 2008 09:12
- 2680 of 3050
I stand corrected.
cynic
- 04 Sep 2008 09:12
- 2681 of 3050
PTH ....golf any time that suits .... weather here truly vile ..... blowing quite hard, tho not by natuical standards it's true, and regular prolonged and heavy rain.
with regards to SOLA, my guess is that there will be quite good support at 400, tho i'm not convinced that we are necessarily heading that low - i.e. i think the markets are preparing to bounce quite sharply, which will certainly be the case if sentiment starts to believe that the economies will begin recovering in 2009
hlyeo98
- 04 Sep 2008 18:16
- 2682 of 3050
432p at close. This will dive no doubt following US markets.
hlyeo98
- 05 Sep 2008 14:42
- 2683 of 3050
415p now...it's been very quiet here.
dealerdear
- 05 Sep 2008 14:44
- 2685 of 3050
How low will it go before it can be traded long I wonder. Could be now or is it going to continue to retrace?
cynic
- 05 Sep 2008 14:47
- 2686 of 3050
you can trade long whenever you like (lol!), but keep an eye on ADRs and/oir trade those instead on the hope that NY will bounce during the day
HARRYCAT
- 05 Sep 2008 14:50
- 2687 of 3050
I expect it to break through the 200 DMA, so am prepared to watch for the moment. Dangerous buying now & hoping for a bounce. Where's pth when you need him? ;o)