goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
goldfinger
- 05 Jul 2013 11:04
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People are just getting fed up with Cameron telling lies and avoiding questions and blaming labour. Hes been in power over 3 years now.
They can now see through him.
The childish behaviour of the Tory front bench at PMQs on wed has repulsed the nation.
Cameron..... time to GROW UP.
goldfinger
- 05 Jul 2013 11:08
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ha ha ha ha Hays, the Poll says otherwise.
They dont trust the Tory party anymore.
This week has been a watershed, people want a more left wing opposition. Milly at last is starting to see that.
Mcluskey for all his downs has stirred the labour party, and it was needed.
Fred1new
- 05 Jul 2013 11:08
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Does it trust the cons and libs?
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Watch the R/wing tory loonies fighting with the tory "wets" or was that tory "bedwetters" as they come up for retribution at the next General election.
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2013 11:08
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gf
This is your favourite Yougov poll this morning
http://yougov.co.uk/news/2013/07/05/update-labour-lead-8/
Latest YouGov / The Sun results 4th July - Con 31%, Lab 39%, LD 11%, UKIP 12%;
Paints quite a different picture
goldfinger
- 05 Jul 2013 11:15
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No thats your favourite poll, the one you used to say you took part in!!!!.
By the way the one I posted was 12 hours later than the one above. That one doesnt take into account actions yesterday evening.
And we all know the Sun is a tory rag.
But even with those figures labour would form an overal maj government.
I suspect the true figure is something like a 10% lead.
The big % leads of Blair are history now with partys being too similar to each other.
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2013 11:26
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The figures are normal for mid term. By the election the economy my will be better and the Conservatives will romp home.
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2013 11:27
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Forget about Mandela, it is Miliband that is in a vegetative state.
Fred1new
- 05 Jul 2013 11:28
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But Hays, from your postings you appear rampant about yourself and the party of con men's appeal to the "voters", but the poll suggest, both you and your party are burst flushes.
Stop looking at your back pocket, the problems are in front of you.
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The debate on the EU, being held in HPs to-day is a party political stunt to try and save the tory party from a complete split of back stabbers.
Cameron is a sham, trying to hold on to power for his own self-interests and for the benefits for his lobbying cohorts and puppeteers.
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Haystack
- 05 Jul 2013 11:41
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There is no doubt that Labour/Unite are imploding. McCluskey is threatening to sue the Labour party claiming that it smeared Unite. It is good to see what Labour and Unite are really like.
The Conservatives are having Christmas early this year with the Labour slanging matches.
skinny
- 05 Jul 2013 11:44
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Little did she know that I know that...
Unite's Len McCluskey attacks Labour over Falkirk probe
Labour leader Ed Miliband is in a stand-off with the party's biggest union backer over the selection of candidates for the next election.
Unite general secretary Len McCluskey has denounced a Labour internal inquiry into candidate selection in Falkirk as a "stitch-up".
He denied claims Unite signed up new party members without them knowing, to influence the process.
Labour's Angela Eagle denies Unite's claims the party "smeared" the union.
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2013 11:48
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Unite signed up 100 new members of the local Labour party and paid their sub's. These people were not asked and did not even know they were being signed up. Just the usual union corruption. We had Scargill conning his union and now we have McCluskey conning Labour and voters.
goldfinger
- 05 Jul 2013 11:59
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Fact is this, Cameron couldnt get enough votes to beat arguably the worst PM this country as ever had.
The public now know what Cameron and his fellow Eton boys stand for, they hadnt realised before last election what a group of toffs they were.
Cameron will NOT get as many votes at the next election as UKIP will steal a lot off him.
Liberals will have a reduced nos of voters following them.
RESULT..... Labour will win with an overal majority.
The truth is Hays you and cyners everytime UKIP is mentioned here dash in to make some negative comment.
Admit it, your frightened to death what they are going to do to the Tory vote........and YOU KNOW IT.
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2013 12:04
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UKIP will collapse in a real election. They are being seen as strange and bizzare. Only this week Garage said he doesn't use his oyster card so he cannot be tracked. UKIP candidates are being shown up to be extremists. Some of their previous social media posts are coming back to haunt them. They are not a party, but a bunch of rabble.
goldfinger
- 05 Jul 2013 12:37
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Again your defence mechanism locks on.......
"The truth is Hays you and cyners everytime UKIP is mentioned here dash in to make some negative comment.
Admit it, your frightened to death what they are going to do to the Tory vote........and YOU KNOW IT".
Shortie
- 05 Jul 2013 12:41
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I wouldn't be so sure, theres plenty of us under 40's who don't trust Lab, Con or Lib Dems that will vote UKIP. Its not about the individuals being extremists but the parties policies as a whole and if they will stick to them.. We already know, the three main parties won't stick to their referendums so time to out the old in bring in new ideas.
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2013 12:43
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http://www.cityam.com/article/labour-has-grave-problem-economy-and-election-stake
THE next election looks certain to be decided on the economy. As people consider how to vote, two big questions come into focus. Who has constructed economic policy with the right motives in mind? And who has the competence to deliver? Who do you like, who do you trust? Both matter.
Polls show Labour has long enjoyed a lead on motives – with 28 per cent currently agreeing that its heart is in the right place, compared to 24 per cent saying the same of the Tories. But Ed Miliband’s party is being killed on competence.
In fact, the polling on competence is staggering. In a survey conducted by YouGov late last month, by 52 per cent to 25 per cent people think George Osborne is doing a bad job as chancellor. But by 32 per cent to 23 per cent, people would sooner have Osborne as chancellor than Labour’s Ed Balls. By 33 per cent to 25 per cent, people trust the coalition more than Labour to make the right decisions on the economy.
Labour’s competence problem on the economy is longstanding and comes down to two issues. First, the party has been unable to explain its economic policy to the public. At a time when people endlessly hear the idea that debt is bad, Labour has relied on press releases and interviews to combat it. They need to take the debate up a level, using set piece events to explain from first principles why they are right and the Tories wrong.
Secondly, Labour looks incompetent on the economy because Ed Balls’s media performances are so appalling. The lessons for him are no more complicated than this: if you behave in an aggressive and unpleasant manner on TV, people will not trust you to exercise good judgment in office.
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2013 13:05
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Breaking news
Labour is handing details of Falkirk Unite situation to police.
Possible charges of election malpractice.
cynic
- 05 Jul 2013 13:30
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excuse me guys ......i know i am currently quite happily removed, but please can you all stop droning on about the same boring old rubbish?
perhaps start getting interested again in spring 2015, even if the little frisson about militant Unite etc does have a certain but short-lived appeal
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2013 13:45
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It may not be short lived appeal. There is some evidence of the practice having been going on across the country for some time. This could be the biggest election story for years. There may have been widespread election fraud. Some of the people secretly signed up to Labour and paid for by Unite are not even Labour supporters. Some have come forward and were Conservative voters.
goldfinger
- 05 Jul 2013 13:48
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You sound desperate hays.
What people look for the day they vote is how much dosh they have in their back pocket and under your lot its not been much.