goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Shortie
- 05 Jul 2013 12:41
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I wouldn't be so sure, theres plenty of us under 40's who don't trust Lab, Con or Lib Dems that will vote UKIP. Its not about the individuals being extremists but the parties policies as a whole and if they will stick to them.. We already know, the three main parties won't stick to their referendums so time to out the old in bring in new ideas.
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2013 12:43
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http://www.cityam.com/article/labour-has-grave-problem-economy-and-election-stake
THE next election looks certain to be decided on the economy. As people consider how to vote, two big questions come into focus. Who has constructed economic policy with the right motives in mind? And who has the competence to deliver? Who do you like, who do you trust? Both matter.
Polls show Labour has long enjoyed a lead on motives – with 28 per cent currently agreeing that its heart is in the right place, compared to 24 per cent saying the same of the Tories. But Ed Miliband’s party is being killed on competence.
In fact, the polling on competence is staggering. In a survey conducted by YouGov late last month, by 52 per cent to 25 per cent people think George Osborne is doing a bad job as chancellor. But by 32 per cent to 23 per cent, people would sooner have Osborne as chancellor than Labour’s Ed Balls. By 33 per cent to 25 per cent, people trust the coalition more than Labour to make the right decisions on the economy.
Labour’s competence problem on the economy is longstanding and comes down to two issues. First, the party has been unable to explain its economic policy to the public. At a time when people endlessly hear the idea that debt is bad, Labour has relied on press releases and interviews to combat it. They need to take the debate up a level, using set piece events to explain from first principles why they are right and the Tories wrong.
Secondly, Labour looks incompetent on the economy because Ed Balls’s media performances are so appalling. The lessons for him are no more complicated than this: if you behave in an aggressive and unpleasant manner on TV, people will not trust you to exercise good judgment in office.
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2013 13:05
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Breaking news
Labour is handing details of Falkirk Unite situation to police.
Possible charges of election malpractice.
cynic
- 05 Jul 2013 13:30
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excuse me guys ......i know i am currently quite happily removed, but please can you all stop droning on about the same boring old rubbish?
perhaps start getting interested again in spring 2015, even if the little frisson about militant Unite etc does have a certain but short-lived appeal
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2013 13:45
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It may not be short lived appeal. There is some evidence of the practice having been going on across the country for some time. This could be the biggest election story for years. There may have been widespread election fraud. Some of the people secretly signed up to Labour and paid for by Unite are not even Labour supporters. Some have come forward and were Conservative voters.
goldfinger
- 05 Jul 2013 13:48
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You sound desperate hays.
What people look for the day they vote is how much dosh they have in their back pocket and under your lot its not been much.
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2013 13:54
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It is Labour that is getting desperate!
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2013 14:04
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The Conservatives have a nickname for McCluskey - Father Christmas.
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2013 14:12
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How much did the Labour party know about the election fiddling? The enquiry may end up being wider.
Fred1new
- 05 Jul 2013 14:22
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I would think the present tory "boasting" is alienating many voters than aligning them to their party.
I think it may be like another tory bright idea of rushing to print without any real hard details or facts of the union and labour electoral transgressions.
Would think it not of national consequence, but may show where necessary rule changes should be made.
But at least Miliband at least thought and took advice before rushing to the media and producing U-turn policy as one now expects from the shambles of a government, usually such changes being back up by distortion of data a false interpretation of slanted data.
It will be interesting to see what comes out.
But I suggest similar enquiry in the local Con parties administration would produce the same tribal behaviour.
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2013 14:30
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Referendum bill just passed Commons vote 304 to zero.
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2013 14:31
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Fred
This doesn't look like tribal behaviour. It looks like FRAUD.
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2013 16:19
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Labour has suspended 14 constituencies over possible irregularities. For irregularities read FRAUD.
goldfinger
- 05 Jul 2013 16:23
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Hays question...... do you get sexualy excited by this kind of thing?.
Your going to look a real bugga walking out of the house with a big blue conk and a stiffy on down below.
Fred1new
- 05 Jul 2013 17:29
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You mean like the impeccable claims for a Wisteria hair cut?
doodlebug4
- 05 Jul 2013 17:31
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A typically crass comment from you, gf just because someone doesn't agree with your views - post 26808.
TANKER
- 05 Jul 2013 18:32
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FRAUD just look at all the MPs and you will find fraud big time from stealing cash to insider dealing .
UKIP will do just fine has a tory and all my family and friends switched .
the con party is just that cons
goldfinger
- 05 Jul 2013 18:32
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ohhhhhh looks like Ive got my stalker following me again on here.
Poor lad must be quiet on advfn, well either that or he cant find someone to have a spat with him.
Shame I have him filtered.
goldfinger
- 05 Jul 2013 18:35
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Not you TANKER, poster above Fred.
ps,
Hays is getting very horny today based on Len, Unite, and Labour.
Hes still in denial over UKIP. Its fear you know.
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2013 19:06
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Just reading Evening Standard. They have Labour ahead between 5 and 8 percentage only now.