bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
EWRobson
- 11 Apr 2005 23:11
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Good thinking belisce. Good action Big Al. Common problem, b2b; but why not get rid of the dogs with apologies to stockdog. Given this is a potential 12-bagger from here, then get rid of anything you are not confident is going to be at least a 2-bagger.
Eric
Andy
- 11 Apr 2005 23:55
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Eric,
I hope Ek's still short (as well as fat) on this, chart looks good!
And I thought BPRG won the court case!
Or was it a case of losing the war but winning the peace?
TheFrenchConnection
- 12 Apr 2005 06:42
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Amities / Andy:- Reg. Simon C. Your very hope may be the very case Andy. l now fully entertain the notion- after haing a "gut" feeling all day - that much of Fridays heavy intensive "Buying" was in FULL anticipation of todays { Mondays} RNS and NOT Simon C. and his acolytes making for the exit doors . Little birdies and all that . Simons fiends- sorry Friends - and diarist Tim Winnifrith & his bizzarre looking chartist chum Zak at CFD traders- Blue index -and French invesror / analyist Sarah B @ unqouted analyist may all as "friends" have suggested to him he is manifestly wrong to hold and maintain a "short" in this particular instance but that is not the same as is him ACTUALLY CLOSING his postion .Advisement is one thing : Acting upon advisement is quite a different matter . Of that fact there is no definitive clarification . Many of his hi value clients still hold . That much i do know . ln saying that his recent massive "shorting" of BPRG is paying such handsome dividends so so perhaps hes playing the percentages and has seen sense and decided to abandon his "short" on SEO ,,,Thats not his characteristic style but with the minblowing potential of SEO he may have recognised he has been utterly "stitched up" and have closed very soon after opening a "sort position" ,,lf he HASNT closed yet SEO can only head north when he eventaully does .,,,But do not undersetimate this individual . Drunk and inveterate gambler he may be but lets not forget it was his scrutiny of the Maxwell accounts that brought the man and his empire tumbling down . ln short: He was responsible for the fall of Robert Maxwell so he is no mans fool . / As for his past "shorts" - l have known him to carry "short" positions which when closed have resulted in losses of 30-40 million pounds stg; so losses equating to a mere few hundred thousand stg as have been suggested by some on this very board are but mere peanuts to him .He bets more at the likes of Newmarket and Lingfield ect ect .....BUT !!! He is not a man to surrender easily. But in SEO he will most certainly yield .Of that i am convinced. ...,,,,,lncidentally i topped up today in late trading at not much in excess of the s/p at market inception ,,,, so all in all a another great day .... .a'bientot .....bonne chance .......@+ J .
bosley
- 12 Apr 2005 07:51
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morning all. good post tfc. i dont think anyone underestimates him. but you feel less afarid of something or someone if you take the piss out of them. he may not be someone who surrenders easily but he is not a fool, also. sooner or later , he will see he would be better off going long on seo. it would probably be a better decision than gmc. online gambling/poker will collapse once people figure out what a con it is.i mean, how many of you would go into a casino and play poker with a dealer who knows exactly what cards you are holding at all times???? as for seo , i feel disapointed that there is no rns this morning!!!!!! what kind of crap company is this????? there should be an rns EVERYDAY!!!! blimey!!
(also, i'm proposing we arrange to meet for a drink when we hit 25p. we can do a northern and southern meet. just an idea. anybody fancy a pint???)
aldwickk
- 12 Apr 2005 07:55
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Tonight is a bit short notice , LOL
bosley
- 12 Apr 2005 08:10
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lol@ aldwickk. it would be nice if we did get to 25p today , but i cant see it without more news. i would be happy just to stay above 20p for a bit.
andysmith
- 12 Apr 2005 08:20
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EK aka Extreme Knobhead, is obviously a very shrewd and talented individual to be able to make significant money on the stock markets and have so many followers. I don't think what he does is right but until there is a law to stop it he plays the game very cleverly, its just that on this occasion he has it very wrong. Lets hope he gets converted, possibly with an SEO retrofit and gives us his seal of approval!! Don't mind him having another crack at shorting, gives me the chance to top-up, as I said last week, he can try but will lose and he failed last week. I am now more than ever convinced that by this time next year SEO will be 100p.
TheFrenchConnection
- 12 Apr 2005 08:25
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Amities / mms shaking the nervous holders from the trees a little here methinks . A little overrdone . Collectimg ? or merely responding raidly to a stock which will be subject to much profit taking after recent gains ,,,@+ ......Equal lol Roly . but 25 tonight would have me twisted for a month ,,,,,and as with PET res unable to talk for an age ,,,,,@+ J
andysmith
- 12 Apr 2005 08:31
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Reading MMG thread, EK might have made some dosh shorting that stock but very bad publicity for him in Sunday papers, a brokers geezer resigned and hopefully he'll be in the shit with the FSA (though I doubt that!!!). Maybe he has pushed one too far and will keep his head down for a while. Whilst we all think the man's an idiot, I bet he is richer than us!!
bosley
- 12 Apr 2005 08:49
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significantly, andy.
bhunt1910
- 12 Apr 2005 09:56
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I did not expect to be able to buy in again at less than 20p - so have just taken out another CFD. Wish I had learnt about CFD's earlier on this one.
Baza
PS - I understand that spread betting is practically identical to CFD's - except that you do not pay CGT on your "winnings".
Anyone out there care to comment please on the pros and cons of spread betting v CFD's
Many thanks
Baza
bhunt1910
- 12 Apr 2005 09:57
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The price is creeping up again -
stockdog
- 12 Apr 2005 10:46
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Dog Thoughts For A (mostly) Blue Day
The constant minute by minute analysis of the SP can, I feel, sometimes obscure the month by month progress we have made and are going to make.
On the iceberg principle, it is extremely unlikely that EK is the only one of his kind out there on this share - just the one who enjoys his time in the sun (not to say the NOTW!). It's all part of the vast market to which the sum of investments on this thread are a mere flea bite (and I know what I'm talking about here! - someone scratch behind my ear for me - aaahhh, that's better). I see no merit in any personal animosity to him - he cannot for long govern the SP, since he does not run the business.
Anyone selling stock they actually own, may simply have achieved their price objective over the term they set, and be on to their next trade. There are many who could arrive at this conclusion without in anyway being silly or wrong - 4p to 20p in 6 months and 14p to 20p in 2 months are both extremely acceptable gains, so why not. There may be a few silly, or nervous, investors, selling to take the profit, scared that the price may fall back, but no considered, informed selling of this share means any lack of faith in its future performance. It merely means they have another preference to put their money into.
The only real decision is for those wishing to invest (more) or those deciding to hold or sell. Ignoring history (other than as an illustration that the business has developed along well-managed lines - I mean ignore the history of the shareprice) here, now, today does investing at 20p promise a) a safe place to put your money where you won't lose it, b) an acceptable rate of return over your chosen time scale, c) a better prospect in terms of a) and/or b) than anywhere else you could put your hard earned money?
The fundamentals are good, the management is capable, the product is an essential modern replacement to a universally embedded need. I am happy with the 16% allocation of my portfolio to SEO. Had I more resources I would add more pro rata, even possibly upping this to a 20% allocation, no higher. Having none, I do not feel inclined, for example, to sell my stagnant gold shares (this now boring hedge against the continuing decline of the US$ and the reversal of the DOW and FTSE sometime later this year/decade, will seem exhilarating enough when its time comes to serve its purpose) to chase SEO higher. I rest content here, where my personal greed/fear ratio is in balance.
Remember, buy the business not the share. Leave some profit for the next person. Plan the trade and trade the plan.
Beware the cry of the revolutionary investor - "Convinceremos!"
As ever, a pleasure to chart (whoops! I mean chat) with you all.
SD
mickeyskint
- 12 Apr 2005 10:56
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Excellent post SD.
MS
pension271
- 12 Apr 2005 11:34
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SD you are inspiration - with same thoughts I added 100k this morning at just under 20p and now that is about 22% of my total outlay - best wishes.
andysmith
- 12 Apr 2005 12:34
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Hope so overgrowth, topped up with a few more, wish I had the funds of pension271!!
pisces
- 12 Apr 2005 13:08
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Who needs coronation street when you can come on this board and watch the "stanelco sitcom" and have much more fun.Seriously though, are stanelco going to be able to cope with demand i.e. new products, if things really take off.Does anyone know how many staff they employ and how quickly new engineers e.t.c. can be trained to fit an expanding workload,because without rapid expansion and turnover will shareholders become impatient.
andysmith
- 12 Apr 2005 13:19
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Pisces, what makes the last announcements so good is that they don't need to employ more people to roll this out across the pond, they have agreements with large engineering companies who already have the staff in place to do this. This allows faster roll-out of Greenseal without the cost of employing 50-100 engineers worldwide with all their salaries/pensions/expenses etc.
We thought the Asda RNS would wake people up and were not expecting progress in US to be worked on for a while but clearly SEO management are putting everything in place for adoption in US/Canada/Mexico, Walmarts territory, Walmart own Asda. Swap Coronation Street for Who Wants to be a Millionaire!!! I won't be, as I don't have large funds but nonetheless I expect holding shares in SEO will significantly change my life within the next 2-5years.
bhunt1910
- 12 Apr 2005 13:21
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I now this is tempting fate - but no sells for over an hour now !
B