goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Fred1new
- 10 Jul 2013 11:43
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Skinny,
As I wrote.
Fred1new
- 10 Jul 2013 11:43
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Skinny,
As I wrote.
Fred1new
- 10 Jul 2013 11:47
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I see PR minister is flogging off more of the silver to pay down its increasing debt.
I suppose it is due to its faith in capitalism.
I will be interested in the books at the end of this corrupt period of government.
Haystack
- 10 Jul 2013 11:57
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Capitalism is the best system as it is infinitely modifiable.
skinny
- 10 Jul 2013 11:58
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Apparently twice!
Fred - people in glass houses.
goldfinger
- 10 Jul 2013 12:17
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Cameron just taken the biggest beating of his life in PMQs.
Didnt answer 1 question as per usual and as Milliband pointed out owned by a few millionaires and Hedge funds.
Wont accept mps as just mps, no wants the likes of posh Peter Liley to recieve £150 grand on top of his parliamentry pay........PATHETIC.
Fred1new
- 10 Jul 2013 12:35
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Skinny,
I was just trying to get through to you.
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But this PR minister at PMQs is one of the worst duckers I have seen.
I think his attempt at smearing is backfiring on him and his followers.
I think he needs a sedative before the next PMQs as he looks as if he may have a stroke.
What a shame that would be.
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But the sooner Nigel Farage and UKIP replace the CON party as the second party the better.
goldfinger
- 10 Jul 2013 12:36
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One thing that really stands out looking at PMQS is both the front benches, just 1 Female minister on the front Tory bench, Labours side about 50/50.
Isnt it time the Conservative party moved forward ito the NOW.
Haystack
- 10 Jul 2013 12:46
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Once again the Labour party took a beating at PMQs over union influence. They tried very hard to deflect attention by constant shouting but the speaker slapped them down.
Fred1new
- 10 Jul 2013 12:50
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GF.
Preferably moved out.
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But it is good to know the large cash donations to the tory party aren't buying policies and tax rebates.
Even some of the old blue rinse brigade must blush, when Cameron's name is mentions.
Bye the way, what does £2.5 millions buy off the barrow boys in No 10?
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What irritates me, is the number of MPs and £70000 a year with expenses who are part timers and moonlighting in companies as "advisors" or other areas.
They can't do the job they were elected for properly, as can be seen by the state of the economy and the increasing fragmentation in society.
Haystack
- 10 Jul 2013 12:52
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The buying of MPs by Unite and other unions is becoming a national disgrace. The unions even chose the Labour leader.
Fred1new
- 10 Jul 2013 12:59
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Hays,
I think you should visit your optician's and see an audiologist you can't be viewing PMQs correctly.
Cameron is a disaster. Even in the pubs they are groaning when his name is mentioned.
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But I would have thought you would be at home in the rabble at the HP.
Sounds like an "old boys" drunken get together.
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A good advert for Manuel's democracy.
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Fred1new
- 10 Jul 2013 13:07
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Hays,
Have you seen the details of what has been referred to the police at Falkirk.
I know you think it is "the tip of an iceberg", but remember that underneath the tip is just water which is melting away.
Don't get any wetter.
goldfinger
- 10 Jul 2013 13:08
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I think Either Hays is pissed yet again or hes got problems with reality.
Labour trashed Cameron, not 1 question answered yet again. People are turning against him in their droves.
Notice how he keeps turning around to his back benches. Typical POSH BOY TRAIT have to all stick together and agree with each other.
The same relationship Hays and Manuel have together.
Cant think for themselves.
TANKER
- 10 Jul 2013 13:16
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Were David Cameron to announce tomorrow that some of the wealthiest landowners in the country would receive millions in subsidies from the taxpayer, there would be predictable outrage. Yet, in the form of the EU's Common Agricultural Policy (CAP), such a programme already exists. The average British household contributes £245 a year to the CAP, most of which, a New Statesman investigation has found, is handed to the wealthiest landowners. Originally established with the intention of supporting small farmers and reducing Europe’s reliance on food imports, the CAP, which accounts for 43 per cent (€55bn) of the EU budget, has become a slush fund for assorted dukes, earls and princes.
A freedom of information request by the NS to the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs found that claimants last year included the Duke of Westminster (net worth: £7.4bn), who was paid £748,716 for his ownership of Grosvenor Farms, the Duke of Buccleuch (£180m), who received £260,273, the Duke of Devonshire (£700m), who received £251,729, and the Duke of Atholl, who was paid £231,188 for his 145,000 acre Blair Castle Estate.
It was also a lucrative year for the Windsor family. The Queen received £415,817 for The Royal Farms and £314,811 for the Duchy of Lancaster, while Prince Charles was paid £127,868 for the Duchy of Cornwall. Similarly well remunerated was Saudi Arabia’s Prince Bandar, who netted £273,905 for his 2,000 acre Glympton Estate in Oxfordshire, alleged to have been purchased with the proceeds of the 1985 Al-Yamamah arms deal between Britain and Saudi Arabia.
this is why Cameron and is cronies want to stop a vote on the eu
they get millions ever year
Haystack
- 10 Jul 2013 13:31
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Tanker
It is the Conservatives that WANT a vote on the EU. It is Labour that doesn't.
Fred1new
- 10 Jul 2013 14:09
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The reason the Conning leadership want a vote is another juvenile political manoeuvre to placate the tory right wingers of the said "tory" party and divert the escapees of his party to UKIP back into the tainted tory party.
It is a split party, a large number of whom would fit into the UKIP or BNP parties quite neatly.
The only problem for them is that they wouldn't be nominated or elected, depriving them of an extra £70000 a year.
The defectors rightly distrust Cameron more and more and will continue their movement to UKIP. (Taking some of their donations or bribes with them.)
Cameron knows it is stupid to leave the EU and the fanciful negotiations proposed before the PROPOSED 2014 referendum is hogwash for fools. If he was in government at that time, he would come back from EU proclaiming his success and recommending and diverting resources to staying in.
It is just a sop to his insular followers.
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Should renegotiations of EC legislation, rules and agreements, etc. take place?
Of course, that is a necessity for any ongoing political development and administration of such.
But chucking the toys out of the pram before starting negotiations simulates the bully boy adolescent behaviour frequently shown by Cameron and cronies.
Haystack
- 10 Jul 2013 14:15
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If you are talking about split parties, they don't come more split than Labour.
2517GEORGE
- 10 Jul 2013 14:26
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''Should renegotiations of EC legislation, rules and agreements, etc. take place?
Of course, that is a necessity for any ongoing political development and administration of such''.
I don't recall Labour doing any of the above, certainly not for the benefit of Britain.
2517
goldfinger
- 10 Jul 2013 14:30
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Your on the rack Hays, its coming through in your posts.
Fred has clearly ruffled your feathers.
That and the fact that Labour have recovered all the lost ground in the polls.
Im told on another site that labour will go into a 14 point lead by Friday.
Cynic cant hold your hand this time.