Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

halifax .... i am afraid just ignoring this situation will not make it conveniently disappear, for the M/E in general has far too much strategic importance for all parties .... and therein i fear lies much of the problem

zubi .... if there is such pinpoint accuracy, how do you explain away the massive collateral damage???

Israel's population was formed by an influx of mainly Jews from Europe and America, who colonised part of Palestinian land.

Will the nomadic Palestinian tribes be allowed to return to the land now named as Israel?
If so will they have equal rights?

I somehow doubt it.

I don't believe that it is possible to demolish the State of Israel. It is "fait accompli" .

But I do wish both sides could develop a little mutual respect and possibly trust, which may lead to the benefit of the region and themselves.

I think Bush and Blair's decisions over the last 10 years were disastrous to possible peace in the ME.
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cynic - zubi explains in its post. Israel is deliberately causing massive collateral damage to encourage more terrorism around the world. Deliberately.

Keep up mate. This is clearly the thread where the world's intellectuals gather for an in-depth and well reasoned discussion on the real issues. It is here where this problem is going to get solved once and for all. Proper like.

And Zubi and Fred will deservedly get nobel peace prizes. Two each.

;-)

Where are the resports of massive collateral damage coming from? The numbers killed inlcude the Hamas terrorists. Certainly at the start the majority were Hamas. Now it is anyone's guess.

Gausie, Glad you are contributing at your usual intellectual level.

I think "collateral" damage amounts to couldn't care a damn. I believe and International Agency worker was killed to-day. Israel won't allow reporters in to report on the action taking place. I suppose the other international agency workers were Hamas in disguise.

The unusual step by the Red Cross of condemning Israel's latest action is also misplaced.

Look, if there was no 'Global Terrorism', what would the US army do..?

cynic you state "but there is no doubt that Israel has made Gaza little better than a ghetto of the type initially imposed on the Jews in Warsaw. "

You should be ashamed of the comparison-450,000 people herded in to an area large enough to house maybe 70,000-starved to death-zero medical equipment,left to die in the open,before being rounded up by those Nazi bastards every day of every week to be transported in cattle trucks to a fate worse than anyone could have imagined in those concentration camps set up for one purpose only.

How you can compare the two is beyond me and smacks of a total and utter lack of knowledge. Your comments are based on tv reporting i am afraid.
Everyone seems to have forgotten who the perpertrators of 9/11 7/7 Glasgow airport ,Lockerbie-the list is endless were.

I cannot recall a pre emptive terror attack in recent times carried out by israel which is meant to kill and maim any civilian which is what Hamas, Hizbollah and the other Paelstinian terror groups plan and execute at will-including suicide bombings in Iraq,Bali ,Pakistanetc etc etc.


This is why the US and no Arab state has condemned Israel outright-apart from Syria.

These Arab states are more afraid of Islamic fundamentalism entering their society.
They are happy to let Israel do the dirty work and take the public beating.

SIVAD .... now you know why i inserted the word initially .... the polish ghettos were progressively shrunk and more and more restrictions placed on the inmates

"Israel's population was formed by an influx of mainly Jews from Europe and America, who colonised part of Palestinian land.

Will the nomadic Palestinian tribes be allowed to return to the land now named as Israel?
If so will they have equal rights?"

Perhaps Syria and Jordan should also return Palestinian Lands, which actually comprise a much larger part of such than the State Of Israel.

I can assume Fred that you will be lobbying the Embassies of both countries for restitution or does your argument only extend as far as Israel?

No, That maybe part of the settlement.

LoL - In your dreams.
Hypocritical as always.

2 lots of people living on the same land.......spells trouble !, ...let's hope that they can bring peace that means something.....no rockets being fired and no shelling, and keep to that promise. If Hamas or others fire rockets ...the Israelis will respond, it's as simple as that.....if there was long lasting peace you would have Jews investing in Gaza and the region would prosper !.

Unfortunately the problem remains religion and ideology. Hamas and Iran in particular are dedicated to the removal of the state of Israel. No truce or peaceful settlement will stop that. It is similar to North and South Ireland only much much worse. I doubt there will be a real settlement in any of our lifetimes.

Then this is depressing that no solution can be found !.

If you read the Bible you will know that the land called Palestine, Jews and Arab was living their.. it was not a Jews state neither the arab it was called Palestine.

2nd who crossified Jesus?.

Anyway I am not with any kind of killing or war I am not with Hamas or Israel or with any one who supports war, I am with the people who support peace, even I know that my words does not do any thing for stopping the war or the killing machine in both places as I know the killing from the devils hand whom we should fight.

But looking to the whole situation I know in fact if 1.5 Mil person lives in a large prison and can't move from a place to another I mean (61 Year in the same situation) in the same teritory not even they can not go to visit their immediate relatives who are few minutes away from them lives across the Israeli fence, also i know for sure that Palestinian people can't build or do any home remodeling or fixing to their own houses unless they got a the permit from Israel, and to get the permit they need to pay very high taxes even with that they do not get it.
I think this is some of the reason why it is dealt in this way,
Do you know that in each Palestinian house has at least one person killed or in the Israeli prison.

you said :-
28 deaths caused by rockets and mortars fired from Gaza into Israel since 2001. including Israelis, Palestinians and foreign workers
1,000+ people in Israel injured from rockets and mortars fired from Gaza since 2001, including Israelis, Palestinians and foreign workers.

Do you know how many infants and women died in the past 10 days in Gasa only, will you please also count the arab people who got killed since 2001.
will you please put the full statistics for both sides not only one side (Israeli side only) for all the items mentioned above
Do you know that Gaza and other Palesinian teritory are big prison, Do you remeber the late Palesinian President Yaser Arafat when Israeli occupied him in his office for months untill his death.

Do you know that Palestine is an occupied teritories.

Do you know that since when the peace process started and what happend to it why till now why their is no peace oh come on for God sake.

PTh. I beginning to think your level of argument is at the same level as Ruth and Gausie.

Please look up the meaning of hypocrite and try and explain to me in which way it applies to me! I am just interested.

Or is your opinion based on ignorance as usual.

There will always be wars.

Fred,

Think about you response to the occupation of Palestine by Syria and especially Jordan. I'm not going to do all your work for you.

I can assure you I am far from ignorant. I don't even read the Sun :)

fahel - please note this is an english language bb - please try to get your posts translated into english before putting them up here. Maybe then whatever points you're trying to make will be intelligible to some of the readers here.

Fahal.your post looked very sensible to a cockney like me.love in a peaceful world is the message.Gausie.the cartoon man.nothing you ever say makes sense..I dont think you have a handle on humanity?and dont go quoting the pastwe live in the presentdidnt you know?
War = An eye for an eye = many blind innocent people..
When involved in a fighttheres no wrong or no rightnobody has the last say!OK!