Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Not only is the Labour/Union relationship potentially corrupt, but it might be an idea for Wallace Millipede to wake up and smell the coffee. Without the unions' money, the Labour party would be in serious danger of going t!ts up. Damned if he does, damned if he don't!

Unless, of course, fishfinger redirects his £120k grand annual sub...

Latest poll of Polls Labour Majority of 90 seats..........

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/

Only bent Torys could say Labours ralationship with the Unions is not politicaly correct/ currupt.

Figures due to be released soon that show just 20 individuals are responsible for over 80% of Tory funding.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When this hits the news labours problems will seem like a storm in a teacup.

The Conservative funders cannot choose candidates, cannot choose the party leader, do not directly pay for individual MPs, do not fix the constituency ballots. These are all things that the unions do.

gf
The ukpollingreport above only goes up to July 5. The Conservatives are closing in.

Rubbish........ at those dinners and events they can get anything they require. Stop talking bunkum.

Does fishfinger not realise that he and Old Bollock Chops are about the only two people on the planet who give a toss about how the Conservatives are funded. 99% of normal people have got a life and just accept it for what it is and always has been - they certainly don't bleat on about it day after day, week after week.

For those who are interested in politics of the here, now and past they may be interested in
Reflections Programme (Part of a series) on Radio 4 Shirley Williams by Peter Hennessy.

Listened to it at 9.00 am but to be repeated a 9.30pm.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b036y7ws/episodes/guide

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b036y7ws/episodes/guide

gf
Don't you think Labour had dinners for people who might donate to the party. There are lots of individual donors who contribute large sums to the Labour party. Lord Sainsbury was one of Labour's main funders for years.

Ed Miliband is an "average" politician, Lord Sainsbury, a former major Labour donor, has said.

The founder of the supermarket chain, who stopped giving to Labour in 2010, said Mr Miliband is not "top bracket" like Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair.

In an interview with The Times, he said all three leaders of the major political parties are not very inspiring.

In terms of political skills, I think he's average. Average in the sense that I think Nick Clegg and David Cameron are pretty average.

I don't want to imply that they're no good, but I can't say that I get wildly excited by the visions they have.

Lord Sainsbury, who backed Ed Miliband's brother David in the 2010 leadership contest, gave more than £10 million to Labour in the previous decade.

Saintsbury gave a total of £18.5m to Labour as an individual donor.

Denis MacShane to face false accounting charge in relation to parliamentary expenses claims - CPS News Brief

The BBC link - Ex-Labour MP Denis MacShane charged over expenses

Hillary,

Change your knickers; they seem to be getting in a twist again?

The majority of the public do have more than a fleeting interest in politics and only those with a seemingly amoral view of the world would accept that because “it was corrupt” that it should remain so.

They also see that politics is also distorted by the corrupting influences of large donations and the distortions of some of the media.
(It is blatantly obvious, that many of the providers of the donations are trying to buy policies for their own immediate personal advantage and not for the benefit of the country as a whole.)

Mind other believers in the “free market” who consider the price of everything to be their driving force, are entitled to their own opinions.

I think Cameron’s attempt to smear the labour party over its links between the unions will backfire.

Are there problems in relationship and influence of the unions in politics? Probably, yes.

Should they be addressed? Yes.

But the unions represent a large number of people who are non vocal, or inarticulate who are entitled to be represented in policy formation as members of the CBI or similar bodies.

Again, unless the UK is prepared to go down the route leading to party financing as in the USA then there probably should be a review of the funding of all political parties. (Including, Green, UKIP, BNP and other fringe parties.)

(Also, think that eventually there will be a move to proportional representation within the next 20-30years)
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Hilary, look at the title of this thread.

If you don’t like the content, ignore it.

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Sainsbury's donation.

Over what period and was it open and honest.

He is now funding a party within a party.

http://www.leftfutures.org/2011/03/welcome-to-the-blairite-party-within-a-party/

Denis MacShane was a Labour MP. Surely not a Labour MP accused and charged with false accounting! I am shocked

Just wait until we get Camerons close freinds in the dock , yes Rebbeca and co.

This is small news compared to what will happen when them crooks get convicted.

Whatever Rebbeca did has no bearing on Cameron. It will soon be forgotten. None of it was very serious and the public don't really care about it.

ohhhhhh Fred having a go at Hilary like that.

Must have said something naughty, but then again Hilary has always been a selfish look after my own type.

Frustration springs to mind.

Cant help her out can you Hays......... you know a lay back and think of Socialist Britain.

Hays.........

Ho ho ho ho he he ha ha ha, kidding himself again.

FRONT PAGE NEWS FOR DAYS ON END.

Only suspect who'l get off is the horse.

ps, then again knowing the habits of the toffs even the horse might have shared the bed.

Stuart Hall's sex attacks sentence to be reviewed

The sentence given to broadcaster Stuart Hall over his convictions for sexual abuse will be reviewed following complaints he "got off lightly".

Hall, 83, received a 15-month jail sentence in June after admitting 14 offences against girls aged nine to 17 between 1967 and 1985.

The Attorney General has referred the sentence to the Court of Appeal for review.

Victim's charities claimed the sentence was "unduly lenient".

Court of Appeal judges will decide whether the sentence should be increased.