Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I 100% agree with cutting benefits for the lazy but certainly not the real disabled
but this bunch in power are and do not care .
stop all family allowance after the two children is a must
people who are made redundant should be given 12 months then
cut the benefits .
any one who has been unemployed for over 2 years should then be made to work for the job seekers money via the local council cleaning paths and other jobs
and the environment agency cleaning up river banks and others
do not allow them to sleep and drink all day

it is time to act and put and end to a life on benefits

T re---------''any one who has been unemployed for over 2 years should then be made to work for the job seekers money via the local council cleaning paths and other jobs''.
What about the local council staff currently doing these jobs for a higher wage than Job seeker allowance, do you think their jobs would be safe. Local councils would relish the opportunity to lay off their workforce, and replace them with lower paid Job seeker allowance workers.
This method would keep low wage earners on even lower wages, in the same way that the influx of immigrants had on low wage earners.
2517

I agree life on benefits should not be an option.
2517

2517 when was the last time you saw people sweeping the paths
they would only do the jobs that are not done cleaning the country side up
clearing snow from paths and so on .
no one who is fit should get money for nothing
lets change the culture for good make them work for the benefits till they find a job

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TANKER the case you highlight above is just what the torries want for their propoganda programme.

Truth is cases like that are in the minimum but alwayd highlited by the press media and NASTY torries.

This benefit cap is right........ BUT...... private landlord rents need looking at.

Their are some right sh-t holes on the market at horendous monthly rates normaly let out here in Yorkshire by Asian landlords who do not come upto the minimum standard.

Its time we started checking more rigously on empty propertys where landlordrs are paid rent direct. LAs are not doing their job.

cases per the above are highlighted by all media of all hues .... but yes, you are right about such being a minuscule minority, just as are afghan familes being accommodated in luxurious houses in uxbridge

btw, landlords are no longer paid rent direct, but the side-effect of that is that many and possible the majority of landlords refuse to let to anyone who is on such benefits, and for very good reason

Yes, the present tory party is living up to its name of the NASTY party.

It is using blunderbuss methods to attack a "problem" area, manufacturing figures to fit in with its aims.

Camouflaging its own bully boy tactics and picking on groups who have a minor degree of "villains" within it.

Scaremongering and scapegoating.

My guess by the time of the next election the gun will be backfiring and they will feel the effects of their policies.

The price the Middle and Lower earners and their offspring will come home to them.

It is a pity that Andrew Lansley hadn't spent more time fixing the NHS rather than wrecking it and attempting to privatise it.

(A lot of the problems started with the concept of outsourcing was accepted and Bureau nursing and staffing was instigated.)

The con party is the leadership and have been in occupation for over three years.

They are the problem and digging deeper.

The present hierarchy of the con party is appalling and avoiding accepting the consequence of their own actions.

The public are gradually getting fed up with the pattern of feeble excuses.

This may not be the ethos of Eton, but is the ethics of the Mafioso who are said to be leading this country.

Has their present values been introduced from the USA with the help of Lynton Crosby.

Also, with the failure of the economic policies they are lying when they say that taxes won't go up under them, if they were elected again. They will!!!!

I didn't know Wavy Davy and Georgie Boy were Afghans.

Cynic said......

cynic- 16 Jul 2013 15:29 - 27223 of 27225

btw, landlords are no longer paid rent direct, but the side-effect of that is that many and possible the majority of landlords refuse to let to anyone who is on such benefits, and for very good reason ............................. ends

We still get paid direct here by Kirklees Council. And I beleive Calderdale still pay direct although I have heard under Universal Benefit later this year it will be phased out.

As a landlord WHO DOES take benefit claimants I think I D Smith is stark raving bonkers going down this line. Cyners I can see massive arrears of rent building up and I will be forced to re-think my policy of taking benefit claimants as tennants.

I dont like the thought of this as Ive only had a few incidents and to me this is Smith starting class war against the very poor. What a tw-t that man is.

Fred re- your post above..........

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100882036

sticky - perhaps it depends on which council is shelling out the housing benefit, but certainly my comment is true with regards to the area where i have a modest property rented out


what cobblers is this? .....
I dont like the thought of this as Ive only had a few incidents and to me this is Smith starting class war against the very poor. What a tw-t that man is.?
i suspect the reason for NOT paying landlords direct is to prevent ghost claims and similar and worse ...... as with many things, there are almost always side-effects

One of the advantages of not paying the landlord is that the landlord may not then know the person is on housing benefit, which could be good for tennant's.

In a poll a few days ago 70% of people agreed with the benefit cap. Of the rest 30% disagreed because they thought the cap should be lower.

Hays...... im prepared to bet you that when the policy becomes nationwide that tennants rental arrears will hit new record highs.

Far better to pay the landlord direct and take away the human factor of need/chance away.

Some people are that poor now under this government that they wouldnt think twice about spending the rental cheque on other things. They know its such a big and timely ordeal for the landlord to evict them, not only that they have nothing to lose.

If you have nothing how on earth can you pay any money arrears/ fines back.

I D Smith is an idiot and I can see him having to change the policy back to paying landlords direct.

sticky - if you are going to make such sweeping statements, i think you should do some thorough research, which clearly you have not done

I wouldn't worry too much GF, the £18k gains you allege to have made on your Supergroup trade to date will cover any defaults on your rental property eh :O)

Ohhhhh yes I have.

Mark my words.

Im now going to place both your post and hays post on my word documents, so that i can bring them out in say 18 month to 24 month and have you both groveling.

The only way that arrears wont happen is that if Landlords never take Benefit Claimants as tennants.

And we know the consequences of that, numbers out on the street with no home homeless and the stats their getting out of hand with crime and robbery growing.

THINK IT THROUGH or otherwise your as daft as that dope Id Smith.

Chris I have 22 tennancys so no I dont think so.

Better get cracking then GF, I actually agree with your sentiments on this one.