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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 16 Jul 2013 14:39 - 27220 of 81564

TANKER the case you highlight above is just what the torries want for their propoganda programme.

Truth is cases like that are in the minimum but alwayd highlited by the press media and NASTY torries.

This benefit cap is right........ BUT...... private landlord rents need looking at.

Their are some right sh-t holes on the market at horendous monthly rates normaly let out here in Yorkshire by Asian landlords who do not come upto the minimum standard.

Its time we started checking more rigously on empty propertys where landlordrs are paid rent direct. LAs are not doing their job.

cynic - 16 Jul 2013 15:29 - 27221 of 81564

cases per the above are highlighted by all media of all hues .... but yes, you are right about such being a minuscule minority, just as are afghan familes being accommodated in luxurious houses in uxbridge

btw, landlords are no longer paid rent direct, but the side-effect of that is that many and possible the majority of landlords refuse to let to anyone who is on such benefits, and for very good reason

Fred1new - 16 Jul 2013 15:32 - 27222 of 81564

Yes, the present tory party is living up to its name of the NASTY party.

It is using blunderbuss methods to attack a "problem" area, manufacturing figures to fit in with its aims.

Camouflaging its own bully boy tactics and picking on groups who have a minor degree of "villains" within it.

Scaremongering and scapegoating.

My guess by the time of the next election the gun will be backfiring and they will feel the effects of their policies.

The price the Middle and Lower earners and their offspring will come home to them.

It is a pity that Andrew Lansley hadn't spent more time fixing the NHS rather than wrecking it and attempting to privatise it.

(A lot of the problems started with the concept of outsourcing was accepted and Bureau nursing and staffing was instigated.)

The con party is the leadership and have been in occupation for over three years.

They are the problem and digging deeper.

The present hierarchy of the con party is appalling and avoiding accepting the consequence of their own actions.

The public are gradually getting fed up with the pattern of feeble excuses.

This may not be the ethos of Eton, but is the ethics of the Mafioso who are said to be leading this country.

Has their present values been introduced from the USA with the help of Lynton Crosby.

Also, with the failure of the economic policies they are lying when they say that taxes won't go up under them, if they were elected again. They will!!!!

Fred1new - 16 Jul 2013 15:34 - 27223 of 81564

I didn't know Wavy Davy and Georgie Boy were Afghans.

goldfinger - 16 Jul 2013 15:43 - 27224 of 81564

Cynic said......

cynic- 16 Jul 2013 15:29 - 27223 of 27225

btw, landlords are no longer paid rent direct, but the side-effect of that is that many and possible the majority of landlords refuse to let to anyone who is on such benefits, and for very good reason ............................. ends

We still get paid direct here by Kirklees Council. And I beleive Calderdale still pay direct although I have heard under Universal Benefit later this year it will be phased out.

As a landlord WHO DOES take benefit claimants I think I D Smith is stark raving bonkers going down this line. Cyners I can see massive arrears of rent building up and I will be forced to re-think my policy of taking benefit claimants as tennants.

I dont like the thought of this as Ive only had a few incidents and to me this is Smith starting class war against the very poor. What a tw-t that man is.

goldfinger - 16 Jul 2013 15:46 - 27225 of 81564

Fred re- your post above..........

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100882036

cynic - 16 Jul 2013 15:55 - 27226 of 81564

sticky - perhaps it depends on which council is shelling out the housing benefit, but certainly my comment is true with regards to the area where i have a modest property rented out


what cobblers is this? .....
I dont like the thought of this as Ive only had a few incidents and to me this is Smith starting class war against the very poor. What a tw-t that man is.?
i suspect the reason for NOT paying landlords direct is to prevent ghost claims and similar and worse ...... as with many things, there are almost always side-effects

Haystack - 16 Jul 2013 16:14 - 27227 of 81564

One of the advantages of not paying the landlord is that the landlord may not then know the person is on housing benefit, which could be good for tennant's.

Haystack - 16 Jul 2013 16:15 - 27228 of 81564

In a poll a few days ago 70% of people agreed with the benefit cap. Of the rest 30% disagreed because they thought the cap should be lower.

goldfinger - 16 Jul 2013 16:25 - 27229 of 81564

Hays...... im prepared to bet you that when the policy becomes nationwide that tennants rental arrears will hit new record highs.

Far better to pay the landlord direct and take away the human factor of need/chance away.

Some people are that poor now under this government that they wouldnt think twice about spending the rental cheque on other things. They know its such a big and timely ordeal for the landlord to evict them, not only that they have nothing to lose.

If you have nothing how on earth can you pay any money arrears/ fines back.

I D Smith is an idiot and I can see him having to change the policy back to paying landlords direct.

cynic - 16 Jul 2013 16:37 - 27230 of 81564

sticky - if you are going to make such sweeping statements, i think you should do some thorough research, which clearly you have not done

Chris Carson - 16 Jul 2013 16:41 - 27231 of 81564

I wouldn't worry too much GF, the £18k gains you allege to have made on your Supergroup trade to date will cover any defaults on your rental property eh :O)

goldfinger - 16 Jul 2013 16:46 - 27232 of 81564

Ohhhhh yes I have.

Mark my words.

Im now going to place both your post and hays post on my word documents, so that i can bring them out in say 18 month to 24 month and have you both groveling.

The only way that arrears wont happen is that if Landlords never take Benefit Claimants as tennants.

And we know the consequences of that, numbers out on the street with no home homeless and the stats their getting out of hand with crime and robbery growing.

THINK IT THROUGH or otherwise your as daft as that dope Id Smith.

goldfinger - 16 Jul 2013 16:47 - 27233 of 81564

Chris I have 22 tennancys so no I dont think so.

Chris Carson - 16 Jul 2013 16:49 - 27234 of 81564

Better get cracking then GF, I actually agree with your sentiments on this one.

goldfinger - 16 Jul 2013 16:52 - 27235 of 81564

Cheers Chris. Its just common sense isnt it.

cynic - 16 Jul 2013 17:22 - 27236 of 81564

I confess I also haven't researched, but the reasoning for the move will be well-publicised somewhere

to be honest, the problem with letting to anyone is the dreadful state they are likely to leave it in .... I think the standard deposit is 6 weeks rental, but unless you're top of the market, it's almost worthless

goldfinger - 16 Jul 2013 18:58 - 27238 of 81564

Jesus, just been watching the news on both BBC and ITV re- NHS.

Tories only been in 3 years and they have destroyed it already.

Shame Shame Shame on them.

This present government couldnt organise a piss up in a brothel.

cynic - 16 Jul 2013 19:05 - 27239 of 81564

what a strange chap you are ..... sometimes you're quite sensible, but there are an awful lot of occasions when you're like walter mitty on speed
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