Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Don't forget the £1m that Blair took for the Labour party from Ecclestone to allow tobacco ads in F1. Just another example of a corrupt Labour party.

CAMERON HAS JUST TOLD BIG LIE IN HOUSE OF COMMONS
LET ME TELL HIM I NO A LADY OF 41YEARS OLD WHO WAS BORN
WHO CAN NOT WALK AND LIVES IN WHEELCHAIR
HAS BEEN MADE TO MOVE OUT OF HER ADAPTED HOME BECAUSE SHE AS TWO BEDROOMS FACT NOT FICTION HOW MANY MORE HAVE BEEN KICKED OUT

A MP as just asked the most important question in the commons
about the land subsides that the rich get in the uk over 20 tory MPs
get millions from the EU ever year including CAMERONS FAMILY

this government is the lowest scum that have been in power
a party of smear and lies .
and we have not yet started to fight the next election
it will be the worst campaign ever for smear and corruption .
Cameron is a evil disgusting person who is sticking iss fingers up to the voters .

Why should people who own land not get land subsidies from the EU? Do you imagine that there are no Labour MPs or Labour donors that get land subsidies?

and yes I have sent him loads of E MAILS in reply to is but alas will not answer the questions . and the reason is because the truth hurts .

hays . the reason being is that they have interests to stop in the EU

Hardly anything said by Cameron on the NHS because he knows hes on a sticky wicket and his health minister has taken the flack from not only the press but the Lib/Dems this morning.

Excelent question from a labour bank bencher re- to Camerons record of not answering questions and using statistics and lies to worm out of tight situations.

He kept on about the unemployment figures (fiddled as we all know if we tell the truth) but no mention of the latest industrial production fall.

Corrupt Tory party and little wonder they are losing smaller donation providers.

So what.There will be plenty of Labour supporters who will have interests in staying in the EU and plenty who will have interests in leaving.

gf
The government cannot fiddle unemployment figures. They are produced by the ONS. The ONS is a separate body and made so by law passed in 2007.

gf I feel sick to think I voted for this scum and I am not alone their are hundreds
who think the same who I speak to . the tory party are finished

Cameron answered the health questions very well and left Miliband looking very silly.

BREAKING NEWS

Man City bid 35 million for Wayne Rooney

Ohhhh Hays are you on this planet?.

Doesnt matter who does the figures. THEY ARE FIDDLED and the liar Cameron uses them to his advantage.

He answered nothing on the NHS...........nothing. Hed been briefed to keep well away.

perhaps i'm far too cynical, but as far as I can see, all gov'ts of all hues all over the world and since time immemorial "manipulate" figures as much as they can, and obviously for their own advantage.

for hays to pretend otherwise, and the rest of you guys to point fingers like silly little schoolboys, really is disingenuous or even pathetic in the extreme ..... pots and kettles is far too generous a metaphor

gf
How can they fiddle the figures.'The ONS has no interest in the figures being one way or another. Governments used to fix the figures certainly. That is why the ONS was set up and made independent by statute. They have reported unemployment getting worse in the past. No one then thought they were fiddling the figures. People always think figures have been fiddled when they do not suit them. No one from government works in the ONS, they are just statisticians. They use the same methods from one quarter to another. I see no reason to doubt their figures.

provided the base and method of analysis etc is consistent, then you are right .... whether or not the base or method have been "manipulated" somewhere in the past, is not really relevant .... on that basis, the figure may be wrong, but the trend and direction cannot be

It is the trend that matters as unemployment was rising and now it is falling. Claimants are falling as well. The choice of how you calculate these figures is always open to debate, but one that has been agreed then it is the trend that counts.

Hays and his monkey (cynic) the figures used now give an equal weighting to somone who works 37 hours as to someone who works 1 hour. ie 1 unit

(Ive shown you the evidence before. Dont deny it.)

Thats the big change since labour were in power.

They used a fair weighting system.