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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 17 Jul 2013 13:40 - 27298 of 81564

Now lets talk about this Crosby chap.

Linton Crosby, is he actualy running this country as it would appear to be the case.
We all know he has his finger in big business in the fags industry. We all know it was him who dissuaded Cameron for going for blank cig packets.

Tory sleeze at its worst.

Cameron is just his pupet.

goldfinger - 17 Jul 2013 13:43 - 27299 of 81564

TANKER - 17 Jul 2013 13:38 - 27299 of 27300

all cynic does when given facts is to ABUSE poster that should tell you what kind of person he is ...............................ends

Id say hes trying to please his boss..... Hays. Hes probably doing it and not realising it tanker.

Either way the NASTY Tory party is coming out in their posts.

Haystack - 17 Jul 2013 13:44 - 27300 of 81564

What a lot of nonsense. Australia is the ONLY country opting for plain cigarette packets. All the government has done is to wait for the evidence of Australia's experience. A lot of fuss about nothing.

cynic - 17 Jul 2013 13:44 - 27301 of 81564

sticky - that may or may not be so, but if so, when was that system put in place .... you are claiming or implying that the system/method has been changed since the last election; is that truth or imagination, and if truth, when exactly?

if it's more than year ago, then it doesn't really alter the actual trend ..... one might argue "seasonal factors", which of course can work in both directions, but in that case, I guess one looks back a year for comparison

if anyone could be bothered, it would be interesting to determine what analysis methods or systems were changed when labour was in power for 12 years or however long it was

TANKER - 17 Jul 2013 13:44 - 27302 of 81564

gf Cameron is a puppet to the rich .a liar and corrupt and sticks is fingers up to voters and mocks them

Haystack - 17 Jul 2013 13:48 - 27303 of 81564

The left wing are on the run. The economy is getting better, I unemployment is falling, the deficit is reducing and the lefties are scrabbling around desperately looking for something to moan about. They are looking more desperate by the day. Increasingly Labour are irrelevant to everyone.

TANKER - 17 Jul 2013 13:55 - 27304 of 81564

camerons close friends


Coulson
brooks
Crosby
just about sums him up corrupt and only interested in is bank balance
would he sell is famil for money is god

goldfinger - 17 Jul 2013 13:58 - 27305 of 81564

If the economy is getting better explain the lower industrial production figures that came out 10 days ago.

And Hayses Monkey (cynic)the employment figure have been changed since labour left power.

The number of part timers is way up but they are counted as full time. The number of zero hours contracts is way up but they are counted as full time. The number of these crank self employed busineses are way up they work less than 10 hours per month, but they are counted as full time.

If we were to get a real figure ie, hours worked per reporting period the figure would show massive unemployment.

The trend is down the trend is fiddled, why on earth do you think that industrial output per worker is either level or falling if we were to beleive these fiddled figures.

GO ON EXPLAIN THAT.

Are people going into work a just twiddling their thumbs having tea breaks all day etc etc. Stop being silly.

cynic - 17 Jul 2013 14:00 - 27306 of 81564

sticky - please can you read my post 27303 before it gets lost in the diarrhea, and try to answer the question(s) I raised

goldfinger - 17 Jul 2013 14:10 - 27307 of 81564

No you answer my post above.

TANKER - 17 Jul 2013 14:13 - 27308 of 81564

gf you know he will not because he can not answer your questions
but he will post abuse

goldfinger - 17 Jul 2013 14:30 - 27309 of 81564

Spot on TANKER.

cynic - 17 Jul 2013 14:36 - 27311 of 81564

I have no pretence to understanding how any figures are compiled ..... however, I certainly have a cynical view of most gov't produced numbers anywhere in the world, and fully accept that a system is often "adjusted" to benefit the incumbent ..... nevertheless, once that "enhanced" system has been in place for more than 12 months, then the trend it produces will be acceptably accurate.

btw, am I not correct in thinking that if you are self-employed, you cannot claim unemployment benefit anyway?

with regard to a growth in the self-employed (those who set up their own businesses), I am sure you are correct, but don't forget, there are a great many businesses - e.g. courier companies - whose "employees" are all obliged to be self-employed anyway.

that probably doesn't answer your question, but it's the best I can do .... so now try mine, as clearly you are much more number-savvy and au fait with political workings than I am

Haystack - 17 Jul 2013 14:40 - 27312 of 81564

9 July 2013
UK industry halfway through the second quarter. Industrial production was flat after a surprise fall in manufacturing output, but the underlying trend remained one of expansion. Furthermore, goods exports rose at the fastest trend rate since late-2011. The official data therefore support the view from the business surveys, which also indicate that UK industry is benefitting from rising exports. The PMI survey, for example, showed the strongest export gain for almost two years in June and the largest increase in manufacturing output for over two years.

Separate data meanwhile showed that exports of goods and services rose 0.6% in May, fuelled by a 1.5% increase in shipments of goods. Over the latest three months - a better guide to the underlying trend than the volatile monthly numbers - total exports rose 1.9% compared to the previous three months, the strongest rise since last September. Even more encouraging was the 2.7% increase in goods exports over the latest three-month period, which was the best performance since December 2011

cynic - 17 Jul 2013 14:52 - 27313 of 81564

I know it's pretty ephemeral, but what have the "business confidence" reports shown over say the last 3-4 months? ..... from our side, we have seen a huge increase in standard chemical business in Europe, Far East, Middle East and USA ..... it could be argued that we are (sometimes) better than the competition, but I am more inclined to believe - as indeed I have been broadcasting for a while - that world economies are picking up, from which uk will also benefit, for obvious reasons

goldfinger - 17 Jul 2013 15:01 - 27314 of 81564

Chinese Growth is faltering.

goldfinger - 17 Jul 2013 15:02 - 27315 of 81564

SHAME SHAME SHAME on the Tories.............

http://welfarenewsservice.com/long-term-unemployment-reaches-17-year-high/

cynic - 17 Jul 2013 15:11 - 27316 of 81564

ahem ..... so after your little splutter, please can you at least have a try at answering the questions I raised in post 27303

Haystack - 17 Jul 2013 15:26 - 27317 of 81564

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UK business confidence reaches 13-month high

Business confidence in the UK is at its highest point since May last year, according to a new report.

The Optimism Index by the accountancy and business advisory firm BDO moved higher for the fifth consecutive month in June.

BDO said confidence in both services and manufacturing firms had increased.
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