Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

In fact freinds I used to work with.

Manuel,

It isn't the actual figures are incorrect, it is the distortion of data collection and the deliberate misrepresentation of the data collected.

I would like to know the actual number of hours worked.

I would like to know the increase in self-employed working less than 10 hours a week compared with 3 years ago.

You would expect after three years of the most crass economic management of the economy with reduction of take home pay and 25% devaluation of the pound, that there would be some improvement from a distorted deliberate lowering and depression of the economy that there would be signs of some improvement.

But it will be said at the next election that Andrew Landsley and Cameron (deliberately, or not, mismanaged the NHS and increased its failings.

The effects of the "bedroom tax" will be seen on the streets.

The effect on postgraduate's with £50000+ of debts and another housing boom and burst will be apparent.

Personal debt will be rising alongside interest rates. (Great for the banks.)

The increased inequalities of pay and expectation will be observable and the chaos being created in education will hit home.

All in all I think Cameron is doing a marvellous job. More depressing than even Hitler was.

But, at least some will be able to drink or smoke themselves to death. But, I suppose the cons could put a differential VAT on cigs and beer.

But, hays is OK he can always go home to a good "thrasher".

Fred as usual hes deliberatly trying to prove hes a moron.

Trying to take the pith as usual.

Im not suprised more and more are filtering him. I think its a public school boy wheeze.

self employed do not get job seekers they claim another benefit which is around the same . cynic

really? .... what's it called? ..... any idea?
certainly one of our regular courier chaps would love to know, as he reckons not

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sticky - sorry old bean, but you haven't even attempted to answer even the initial question, so i'll post here for you again, and once you've managed that answer, we'll go to the next bit ......

you are claiming or implying that the system/method has been changed since the last election; is that truth or imagination, and if truth, when exactly?

There will be very little effect on graduates with loans to repay. They only pay 9% of any income that exceeds £21,000. Most will never repay the loan. If you earn £35,000 then the repayment will be £24 per week. That sounds like a good deal. If you earn £30,000 then it is £15 per week.

cynic
Read this. It looks like the benefits are very similar to normal working people.

http://www.turn2us.org.uk/information__resources/benefits/working_or_looking_for_work/self_employment.aspx

Cynic you know I answered this one before but Ill give you the benefit of the doubt seeing your losing your memory.

We have a monthly meet up/ beer binge, every first wed in the new month take note and Ill ask AGAIN for the details you request.

Cant be fairer than that.

Cynic, TANKER is correct. He refers to Employment Support Allowance.

What is Employment and Support Allowance

Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) is for people who:

can't work because of sickness or disability, and
aren't getting Statutory Sick Pay.

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/employment-and-support/

From 27 October 2008 Employment and Support Allowance replaced Incapacity Benefit and Income Support paid on incapacity grounds for new customers.

Here you are Cynic, you will find all you need to know here in this document.

https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/department-for-work-pensions/about/statistics

E+SA is patently NOT unemployment benefit then nor anything remotely like or connected to it

Hays said......

Haystack - 17 Jul 2013 18:12 - 27341 of 27343

What is Employment and Support Allowance

Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) is for people who:

can't work because of sickness or disability, and
aren't getting Statutory Sick Pay...............ends

So please advise why would someone who was self employed other than being sick require extra money?????. .

Obviously if they are working they cant claim jobseekers allowance.

If you are suggesting its because of their limited hours that would be covered by Income Support which is ESA income based.

sticky - like paxo, i'll ask you the same =question yet again .... even a yes or no would be an improvement ...... as you decline to answer, i'ld hazard a guess that the answers are no, not really true at all, well obviously not in that case, but perhaps you'ld care to prove otherwise ...

you are claiming or implying that the system/method has been changed since the last election; is that truth or imagination, and if truth, when exactly?

as you decline to answer, i'ld hazard a guess that the answers are no, not really true at all, well obviously not in that case, but perhaps you'ld care to prove otherwise ...

Cynic if your so idle that you cant be assed to answer your own question (and I have provided a valid link) I suggest you ask your organ grinder to do the work for you.

Typical ex public school boy behaviour thinks he has servants working for him and that he is beyond getting down and doing some hard graft.

Its the same on the stock threads he expects you to come up with all the answers he asks rather than getting stuck in and doing the reasearch himself.

Cynic your on your own bud, GET YOUR IDLE POSH ASS OF THE FLOOR AND GET SOME WORK DONE, or has EVERYTHING ALWAYS GOT TO BE HANDED DOWN TO YOU.

8-)))))))))))))

But I sure he said he was once a waiter.

Hays for you to look at..... i do realise it is rather complicated but thats Ian Duncan Smith for you.....................

ESA can be either contributory or income-related. If claimants satisfy national insurance conditions they can claim contributory ESA for up to one year (if they get the work-related activity component) or indefinitely (if they get the support component).[2] Income-related ESA is subject to a means test and certain other conditions. If they meet both sets of conditions, they can get contributory ESA topped up with income-related ESA....................

In lay mans terms ESA has taken over from Income Support when their is work related activity connected.

Fred a waiter, you mean waiting for other people to sort out his querys the idle arse.

ESA has nothing to do with being self employed. I posted a couple of links above that actually explain benefits for self employed. I thought that you gave advice to people seeking benefits. It turns out that your advice is complete rubbish.