Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

can't be bothered to read the usual crap, but quickly scanned over fred's typical nonsense .... i'm sure he would have happily jumped on the bandwagon had there been (surprisingly) no increase in gdp, nonsense as those figures may or may not be

The debt figures posted above by Fred look bad superficially. If you look at the percentage increases then you will see that the increases are getting smaller. The peak was 2010 when Labour left.

FY 2013* £1.16 trillion 11.53%
FY 2012* £1.04 trillion 14.28%
FY 2011 £0.91 trillion 19.73%
FY 2010 £0.76 trillion 22.58%
FY 2009 £0.62 trillion 16.98% increase
FY 2008 £0.53 trillion

am i thick or what, but that means the debt is getting BIGGER! .... so what's to be proud about??

am i thick or what, but that means the debt is getting BIGGER! .... so what's to be proud about??

Wow from the Mail online today -


A study has highlighted the squeeze on incomes many are suffering that leaves them unable to meet expenses at short notice. Just under 40 per cent of people would be able to take a £200 bill in their stride without dipping into their savings or cutting back on their regular spending, but 20 per cent would be forced to borrow the money, or sell a personal belonging, to pay for it.

The debt was rising under Labour well before the financial crisis that started in 2007.

Look how government borrowing is falling now

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Go back to pre 1983. How many of us hard working people lost moneys and businesses due to wanker bankers!!!!!! Herds of Brewery cattle men e.g. area managers who had not got one eye of a clue how to run a 7 day 24 business 365 days a year. Land lords/tenants committing suicide due to the fact they were harassed due to increase in rents etc. Great not and now how many public houses are closing due to due diligence. Crap management and greed from breweries. Amen. Sorry a little irate this evening but true thoughts.

Peter Kay Misheard Lyrics :-)

just goes to show that numbers and arithmetic really are magic - all very alice in wonderland

the working class having money is bad it makes them lazy
better to keep them poor .
that is camerons view .

3m - your gripe about pubs closing down is not entirely fair ..... It is true that the breweries do indeed sometimes or even often manipulate things so that a pub becomes an unrealistic proposition and can/should this be turned into (profitable) real estate ..... on the other hand, it is now impossible for a landlord to make even a reasonable living from just selling beer, so it is now imperative that he offers at least half-way decent food as well

Pie and Pint or Pie in the Sky!

I promise to try and reform, but the present and things to come:

I wonder how George gets out of the hole he has dug for the UK?

fred - a semi-serious question for you ..... you are clearly fascinated by cartoons, so did you ever try your hand at creating them yourself?

Only when I comb my hair in the mirror.


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Humour, cartoons, symbols and "imagery" of various types have always been interesting to me and sometimes I find cartoons far more perceptive and a distillation of underlying motivations.

It often surprises me the amount and the depth of perception which goes into a few strokes on a piece of paper.

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as in the toilet perhaps?

No.

But analysis of attempts at humour by others, or oneself, can also be very informative of underlying motivation.

(Sometimes by the association of the "symbols" frequently chosen.)

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I am going on holidays, before it to late. I hope you have left France in a decent state.

January 2010 when Gordon Brown announced the recession had ended

Massive Celebrations in Britain's Streets as Recession End Announced

LONDON - England - All across the country there were celebrations and street parties to rival even the Queen's Golden Jubilee, the BBC reported.
From Land's End to John O'Groats, from Grimsby to Grimtowne, Britain's streets were today awash with people dancing and celebrating after Gordon Brown announced the end of the biggest recession since the last Labour government was in power.

"I've lost my home, my wife and kids, my job, everything I owned and even my dog. But, when I heard the announcement that Britain's GDP rose by 0.00001% today and that we're out of the recession, I fuckin' jumped up in joy and said by gawd I'm going to vote for Labour again. What a genius Gordon and his boys are, innit," George Numpty, 45, a resident of the Northern Yorkshire town of Grimness, told the BBC.

Even a homeless man living under Waterloo bridge threw up his arms and was all praise for Gordon Brown: "Gordo's done it again, last year I had a successful business, a house and a future. Today, I've got a cardboard box and a rolled up Mirror newspaper. I'm so glad I voted for Labour, they're financial geniuses they are. With the recession over, I think I might upgrade to a plyboard or MDF box."

Unelected Prime Minister, Gordon Brown even made an appearance at a home for destitute pensioners, where they are processed before put in coffins and buried. He was cheered as he walked into the home to witness how the pensioners are disposed of. Waving resolutely, he even managed a smile before being ushered into the Nil by Mouth processing centre.

It would seem the same effect Andrew Lansley reform of the NHS are having.

But there must be somebody else to blame.

Oh I know, the Hunt of Murdoch fame.

I see the government is going to have another attempt at distorting the unemployment figures by raising "school leaving age" and claim the policy is a success for the youth of the UK.

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Must pack another paper bag.

Another own goal from Fred. The law raising the school leaving age was drawn up by Labour in 2007.