Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Zero hours contracts are not bad per se. They are nothing new and it equates to casual workers. The ones that are potentially a problem are the exclusive zero hour contracts where an employee may not work for anyone else for the duration of the contract. It is this that Vince Cable is going after. It is impossible to stop zero hours contracts as some jobs only exist on that basis.

If they want zero hour workers, they should call them self employed, cos that's what they are.

Oh, and pay the going rate....£7 quid an hour wont cover it.

They are not self employed. They wouldn't be allowed to be self employed under tax rules. If a worker works for just one employer irrespective of any exclusivity, then tax has to be deducted at source as under PAYE. They are just employed with no fixed hours. That's a situation that has always existed. The only reason that this has become a story is because the numbers are increasing. It is market forces. There is a surplus in the workforce so it is a buyers' market. In times of fuller employment, employers would want everyone to work full time and it would be closer to a sellers' market. It is very dangerous to interfere with this process by legislation.

Max - self-employed can be a pain as the person then has to keep proper records and make tax returns etc etc ...... also, as already pointed out, they do not get the perks of being in the system - e.g. no holiday pay; no sick pay; no unemployment benefit and so on and so on

Sports Direct use zero hours staff. These staff could not be self employed due to tax rules. To be self employed you have to demonstrate tat you are running a business with multiple customers.

A couple of links that may be of interest.



http://www.personneltoday.com/articles/16/03/2010/54858/flexible-working-push-by-jobcentres-welcomed-by-employers.htm

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2010/feb/03/lord-freud-recession-unemployment-conservatives

It is all part of what is known as 'supply side policies'.

vote UKIP EVER one I talk to says yes . I MAY EVEN PUT UP SO MANY HAVE TOLD ME TOO and some are labour voters most are torys

I WILL post a e mail on hear soon from the chairman of the tory party
to myself

Every poll shows UKIP declining in popularity.

Hays - you are right .... is suspect the courier companies say they are merely agents for their clients who want stuff delivered - along those lines anyway ..... i recollect that that was the effective defense put up by an escort agency perhaps a year ago

it all depends who you speak to if I go in the local miners club it will be labour if I go to west minster it will be tory
if you go to nutters club it will be lib

the list of LIB MPs over the last 20 years who have broken the law is truly amazing
from theft to liars and fiddles and the tory party is not far behind .

We are so lucky to have those honest, upstanding Labour MP's to fall back on.
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General Election 2015: Are The Tories 'Gliding To Victory'?

The Tories are back in business, Ed Miliband's in crisis, and David Cameron is striding purposefully towards a majority in the 2015 General Election.

That's what the papers say, with Labour's trade union spats, an improving economy, and Abu Qatada's deportation all cited in evidence.

On Tuesday, the Daily Telegraph even reported senior Tories' confidence that they were on a 'glide path' to victory.

And Ladbrokes said 70% of election bets in the past fortnight had been for the Conservatives.

only because lab are 1.5

A recent article in the Kentucky Post reported that a woman, one Anne Maynard, has sued St Luke’s Hospital, saying that after her husband was treated there recently, he had lost all interest in sex.
A hospital spokesman replied, "Mr Maynard was actually admitted in Ophthalmology - all we did was correct his eyesight."

A luxury toilet controlled by a smartphone app is vulnerable to attack, according to security experts.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23575249

Whatever next... PMSL

Probably the risk of attack is 100% more for women as compared to men!

I didn't think they could use smart phones...... I'll get me coat!

40 minutes en-counting, had enough today..