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http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

aldwickk
I have just looked back on our post's and he (mentioning no names) told us on here that he had done just that, bought back in, may be he was on a suicide mission. Or may be he posted on the wrong board as well.

As BPRG seems to be in so much trouble will they make SEO cough up some dough soon for the cc and how much,if so??Am NOT trying to be negative just a simple question.One has to be very careful with one's words,there are a lot of very sensitive people around this BB at the moment.

driver

Barry Harris
I see you posted on here by mistake, you can use the edit button for that reason, funny you didn't put it on nxt after all.
driver

Got the info from the "N" on my stockwatch/moneyam. meant to copy and paste to advfn bb which I did. someone there wanted to know why sudden move on nxt, and in the excitment mis-posted.

Sorry no ramp intended. (post removed)

ethel - que sera sera, but the worst of the cc is in the SEO price already. My personal view is that a weak/ened BPRG management will have other fish to fry. Indeed, if new management comes in they may deliberately write off the cc problem - why would they want to walk into a probable failure, better to blame the last management. Alternatively, if there is to be a trade sale of the business, they will also want it clean and probabyl be happy with a settlement with SEO, even at a cost, since it reduces the worth of BPRG they have to pay for.

On balance BPRG's problems seem to me to improve SEO's position vis-a-vis the cc. However, if things got so bad the administrators were call in, any liquidator worth his salt would pursue the cc if it REALISTICALLY meant more fees for them (sod the creditors for whom they are supposed to work!). But they certainly would not do it wrecklessly or - what's the word for doing something purely to cause harm rather than seek proper financial address? - anyway, that.

SD

Agree with Stockdog about the cc. However I don't think we should be talking about the recievers - there is nothing to remotely suggest that in connection with BPRG.

Incidiently Andysmith I do think its pretty poor form to be on the BPRG thread trying to sell them SEO!! You think that's going to make them feel better - how would you feel if the situation was reversed???

The only certain thing in the stockmarket is the nail-biting uncertainty - I hate it when people say "it's a sure thing" esp when they have money in the shares they are blagging.

SEO's flag should be at half-mast in recognition that these things can happen to ANY share.

sd. maliciously? anyway, ethel, bprg cannot make seo do anything after the appeal courts ruling. bprg took a good spanking today , but their problems are not as bad as it seems. they have tons of cash and good products. i thought long and hard today about buying them as i have come into a little cash lately. in the end i bought more seo. there's never a sure thing doing this investing lark, but i think seo , AT THE MOMENT, as are close as you can get! i am happy to be totally overweight .eeeeeeeeeeee i remember when bprg were 130p and seo was 4p. who would have thought that a few months later they would only be 10p apart.

Driver, I've never owned BPRG but I know someone who does.
Poverty, we had BPRG folk on here gloating and stating SEO were finished.
Difference here is offering a recommendation to research without gloating or taking the piss. Some will want to recoup their losses and SEO is as good as anything right now. So if I said some other recommendations it would be OK??
Dil's "I told you so" would not appeal, BUT there are genuine decent folk invested in BPRG right now with heavy losses deciding whether to hold for recovery, buy low to reduce average or sell and recoup losses elsewhere.
Difficult decisions which SEO holders could have been facing were it not for RF sealing and which I faced thanks to YOO directors. IMO, only bad form if taking the piss which I would not do, I don't like to see decent folk lose money.

Barry Harris
You can come out of the corner now.

For what it's worth I think that bprg will now drop the cc, it has cost them up to 2m in costs already any more negative news coming out of this will send there sp into free fall. Look at what Ian Balchin, Chief Executive of Stanelco said after the last appeal he doesn't even think seo has a case to answer for.

'This is a very significant result for Stanelco and leaves the way open for us
to appeal the decision of the Patents Court, which we now intend to do. We are
committed to protecting our technology and remain confident in our litigation
against BioProgress that Stanelco will retain access to the technology which we
developed.'

Just looking at todays trades - over 7 million buys to less than 3 million sells? I don't understand this trading lark (I tend to invest longterm and am looking at keeping this share for at least 2-5 years subject to balance of news remaining positive) - any reason for a fall in the price today? Although I'm not too concerned about short term fluctuations I must admit that I do read this thread every day and find it very informative...and at times very entertaining...I look forward to the news on this board almost in the same way that I enjoy a good daily newspaper!

By the way Chelsea v Liverpool European Cup semi-final...wow, thats going to be exciting!

An interesting fact for you Liverpool fans (personally I'm a neutral, but I do support SEO!):

In 1981 Prince Charles got married, Ken married Deidre, there was a new Dr Who and.....Liverpool won the European Cup

Chelsea1957 - When a share is as volatile as SEO right now, yesterday's (or a few hours ago's) sell prices can become today's buy prices and vice-versa.

Large trades are often delayed in reporting and even though they were sells at a higher price, they are often reported as buys because the price has dropped so much in the meantime.

Also some buys will have have been broker buys or market marker buys, which are not really buys (i.e. they won't shift the price) - just the trading floor shuffling around their temporary assets.

I expect a bit more selling over the next couple of days during the "consolidation period", then as soon as momentum starts again it's time to buy in again or top up, because news will be on the way soon.

I said I wouldn't post on bprg but I just did, I agree with bos it's a great opportunity to in on bprg on the cheap.
Chelsea1957
Except when you read my post's it must be like reading a comic.

That was informative overgrowth ,im out of these unfortunately ,took the money and ran ,i think i need to get back in for the long term ,these look like another Asos ,JB...

andysmith, overgrowth

Your suggestion is that there could be some easing of teh sp over the next few days. Could be right as the existing news, it can be argued, is in the price. It could equally be wrong. We have had the news which ties up the supply side. Premier and Advance Engineers are over here for three months for training. Advance already supply R/F Generators to SEO so they have less to learn except they now will make the complete units. Now, what does that imply about US sales. Clearly, these engineers are returning to North America to immediately instal units. What I believe that says is that there is a major deal in the offing, possibly several. So expect an RNS announcement before the end of April followed by the second leg of the push to 30p. The danger of waiting is that of missing the current opportunity. Both of you, I think, already have very significant stakes but I am thinking of readers on the board who might forego the current opportunity.

That was a narrow squeak. Took out a CFD on BPRG a few weeks ago utilising margin on SEO. What happened the next day? Back came SEO and I had to bale out of BPRG straight away - thanks for that SEO! I have been puzzled by BPRG as they seemed to more interested in protecting their copyright than utilising it for developing and launching the capsule product. Who is that product relevant to? SEO for InGel Technologies. The Patent Court judgement split the ownership of the several patents involved. A takeover by SEO may not be so foolish an idea. There's ethel, worrying again: its time to smile :-)

Well done, di, for getting back in: the difference in sp will look small in the future. driveer: Trafficmaster, ASOS are only relevant on the way up, but subsequent reactions appear inapplicable. With SEO, we are still in the launch phase: the low gradient initial line of an S curve with initial industry leading clients; about to round the curve to the steep, relatively, gradient as the market at large takes on the product. Agree andysmith that the best reading at the moment is to advance the 2008 volume to 2007, that is some 150M+ total sales by then and royalties of 100M+ per year. Significant margin on the former as much of teh work is contracted out; the latter, nett of payments to partners, goes mainly through to the bottom line. That is why such large projections for the sp are discussed on the board and why the stable members of the commentary team are in for the long term. The answer to the pension problem!

Eric

hi

I am very faithful to Stanelco as I invested most of my savings in it and gonna hold for 3-5years. I read your posts which are very interestings. I can give you all some links which are very interesting (mainly about the sp forecast).

www.fillyaboots.com/f7/forum_posts.asp?TID=1470&PN=0&TPN=1
www.sharesforum.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=1150&st=35

Please , could you tell me what you think about these forecasts ?

Honestly, I can't see at the moment any other companies with more potential than Stanelco. This is just the beginning!!!!!!

regards
seb

Eric - I just hope that you are right - I could do with boosting my Pension as my daughter is getting married and I have my first grandchild on its way.

Baza

Thanks for that overgrowth, I guess short term trading is pretty tricky - much prefer to make longer term decisions. Bought first of all at 10p and topped up 4 times averaging now 14p - these desisions were all based upon the excellent information provided by "the regulars" (particularly EWRobson, andysmith, French Connection to name just a few...what a happy little family!) I'm mostly in the background absorbing all the great info and only post when I have anything useful to say. I'm happy with my overall position, but the more I read and understand, the more I'm tempted to raid the "cooky jar" to buy a few more!

Driver I enjoy your posts just like everybody else's,although some days I read the FT or Shares Mag, if the mood takes me why not the Beano for a change? "Horses for Courses" as they say!

seb190774 - Always be very wary of putting all your eggs in one basket (unless you watch the basket like a hawk - as Warren Buffet says).

I started to look at the thread of one of your links and saw some overly ambitious forecasts of price - one mentioned was 8.00 !

In today's terms SEO at 8.00 would put them between Allied Domecq and Legal & General in the FTSE 100.

A reasonable forecast based on what we know now is 30p very quickly indeed (next couple of weeks) and a steady climb towards the 1 mark as further news of US sales becomes apparent. Though, as ever, expect some retracements along the way.

SEO certainly do appear to have everything going for them right now and to cap it all and scupper my plans of buying in back at 19p, I notice that Shares mag. have a small box update on SEO in the "Plays of the Week" section.

So...I've just placed an order to buy another 100K first thing before the rush!

Looks like you were right Eric lol!

mes amities / .The demise and carnage that is ex city darling - BPRG - has come as no surprise to me whatsoever .None. ln brevity -Despite a attractive swagbag of interlectual properties with close ties to biotec depts at Oxbridge lt juste never delivered . Pure and simple. Quite recently, upon noticing a plethora of intensive sustained buying in the mid 80s ( pence) , after BPRG had broken out of its six month 62/75 trading parameter, i wrote a note of caution on their thread in that one of the mms in this stock happens to be a close friend of mine; and even though BPRG was the second most sought after stock on the market he was extremely reluctant to hold a high number in percentile terms at close of business. He was weary of it at anything above 62p. Very weary. To him 62p represented true maximum value when compared to the basic fundementals and variables of its peers in the junior pharma sector; and that,of course,is taking into account BPRG met ALL its forecasts and projections and closed all the deals with those like Wyeths and others like Colgate that it alluded to in various RNS 's but allowed to simply drag on without keeping shareholders abreast of developments. . But if 47p was breached he was even wearier as the sheer momentum of stop losses automatically triggered at this level spelt 37p immediately ! !Looking through thier books and observing such information ,Simon C. and his legion of shorters had an absolute field day in merely expolited a legitmate mechanism in the market which is intended to prevent huge losses occuring .-the irony is not lost on me. }.Anyway in citing all this i was the recipient of relentless, incessant and quite unneccassary abuse. Now as it happens i spend most of my day vociferously debating the merits and shortcoming of various stock so i am certainly not going to be drawn into name slinging on a computer { good at it as i may be }. ..Obviously l feel sorry for all those who have lost money on this stock. We have "execution only" clients who went as high as 160p ,,but it is a stock that proves the adage that all that glitters be not gold . ... UNLIKE SEO !!!! l topped up again today .ALWAYS a great positive sign when your postion can only be forfilled after a bit of ringing around . l juste have this feeling that when the mms let this off the reigns it will fly .Adopting a longer term stance nowadays; but dont get me wrong i will still sell a percentage on big sudden movements. Forever the percentages man ,,lol Wow, ever since this "revolutionary" RF tec became known to myself, and of more relavence, to the packaging industry itself it has only been greeted with nods and winks among traders , and approval after approval and agreement after agreement and CONTRACTS for the company . .Yes. Tangible money making contracts which will eventually generate royalties worth untold millions in total antiphisis to BPRG and its plattitudes . All a load of twaddle . . To my way of thinking SEO management have been pretty prudent yet decent to us in their somewhat cleverly released series of positive RNS which on each occassion have justifiably acted to create new strong levels of support and also rapidly bolster and sustain the s/p which has somewhat abated a rights issue at a level which a matter of weeks ago could have have been construed by most( inc. myself ) as absurdly low . 10p was mentioned in our offices no more than a month ago. That simply couldnt happen now. What i mean is that with SEO we have not been left to wait on outcomes of RNS and juste rot as were the poor wretches who went "gung ho" on the likes of PET RES and are STILL waiting. As for what exactly, l am not as yet quite so sure. John "the sub" Teeling is past it. Hogan utterly utterly bloody useless. The FT write up on the pair at the AGM at AFD amply illustrated that much . A pair of right jokers. . Oh to have been a fly on the wall at the recent boardmeeting of MIO when Teeling was told to sling his hook as chairman ? And what is AFG now ? nothing but a mere fiscal conduit to CDN which sorta proves John you dont go looking for gold in a country where inflation is 700% ...So taking that into account the rather nefarious actions of such company boards as those mentioned i feel in Balchin and Co at SEO we have strong ,commited, robust and very errudite and knowledgeable open style of management with a product they know could be the new "terapak" . lncidentally Eric: Where you suggesting a rights issue was unneccassary or have i misunderstood you ? l beg your pardon if i have. Personlly i cannot imagine SEO with less than 50k in liquid cash having much of an alternative .....BUT ,,,,ooooo ill tell you what would be really palatable dish and rather appropriate given the circumstances .An "all share" offer for BPRG and then access to the 20 million they have wasting away in their coffers . . Or is that taking cheekiness too far ? Did Stockdog mention that before ?? ( we are on a winner in that FAO incidentally SD ,-that RNS was PATENTLY wrong --Energem { FAO } was awarded the Chad licenses from the Chad ministry itself when competing against oil giants Shell and ExxonMobil . FAO did not attain them by default or cast offs from Shell as that RNS seemed to suggest ,,,,,,,!!! . ....Bonne chance ....a'bientot ......ciao .@+ J