Fred1new
- 06 Jan 2009 19:21
Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?
If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?
Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?
What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?
cynic
- 15 Jun 2010 12:06
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fred - please take immodium and lots of it
In The Land of the B
- 15 Jun 2010 12:09
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He loves being stuffed up you know where
Fred1new
- 15 Jun 2010 12:09
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Cynic.
Don't need it as much as you do.
I am not incontinent like you seem to be.
cynic
- 15 Jun 2010 12:25
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i take the piss and i travel from continent to continent, but unlike you (and a few others), i don't have verbal diarrhea
Fred1new
- 15 Jun 2010 12:48
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Cynic.
A little more insight and self evaluation may be helpful in your case.
Probably, that would require a little more ability than you show.
Have nice day.
cynic
- 15 Jun 2010 12:50
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thus spake the genius who has no idea who i am
Fred1new
- 15 Jun 2010 15:01
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I am happy not knowing who you are.
But your auto-biography seems fairly apt :-
"an opinionated pain who neverthless refuses to take himself too seriously and rarely gets upset by acid retort from those whose feathers he has ruffled. "
cynic
- 15 Jun 2010 15:09
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of course it's accurate - i wrote it you dummy!
how would you describe yourself?
thoughtful? balanced? impartial? measured? ..... or none of those?
Fred1new
- 15 Jun 2010 15:22
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Probably, having a normal distributions of human frailties and fortunately aware of some of them.
ahoj
- 15 Jun 2010 15:31
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Jimmy Carter oferred champeine to Shah when he visited Iran. Shah made a big mistake and ended his kingdom by drinlking the champaine in fromt of TV.
Was it a plan? many beleive yes it was planned to remove Shah!!!!
Fred1new
- 15 Jun 2010 18:07
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I haven't got a chance then, I often drink in front of the TV.
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In The Land of the B
- 15 Jun 2010 21:49
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Beware fred, alcohol and Thorazine are a lethal combo
In The Land of the B
- 15 Jun 2010 21:53
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I'm sorry to see haymaker coming out with his appalling statement saying he wants to donate money to buying rockets to kill Israelis with.
I had thought maybe he wasn't the rabid anti-semite I'd first supposed, but my first impression was correct. He would have made an excellent concentration camp killer/torturer, proclaiming some of his best friends were Jews as he herded them into the gas chambers and ovens.
cynic
- 15 Jun 2010 22:15
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have you been to a concentration camp?
and don't necessarily take what people write at face value .... the written word can be easily misunderstood
Haystack
- 15 Jun 2010 22:16
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In The Land of the B
It is nothing to do with being anti-semetic. It is the Israeli governemt and illegal settlers that I am against. It is merely coincidental that they are Jewish. I would feel the same whatever their religion or race.
I have not been proclaiming that some fo my best friends are Jews. You are clearly inventing things. In fact none of my best friends are Jews. I have had a Jewish business partner, a Jewish accountant, Jewish employees, my children have Jewish friends, my best man was Jewish, but I couildn't really say any of my best friends were Jewish. Most of my best friends are Catholic or at any rate were at some time in their past.
Haystack
- 15 Jun 2010 22:18
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Arab and foreign activists, including an aid ship operated by women from Lebanon, are scheduled to set sail to the Gaza Strip to break the siege on the enclave now blockaded for more than three years, despite Israel's request to the European Union to prevent all ships on missions to break the siege from European ports.
Preparatory committee coordinator for the Lebanese women's ship, "Mariam", Samar Hajj, said in a phone call with Agence France Presse today that the initiative for the ship started from very ordinary women, who are firm believers that the siege must be broken.
She noted that the Free Palestine movement represented by chairman, Yasser Qochloq, secured the ship and all logistic support. She indicated that the number of women on board has reached fifty, thirty of them Lebanese, and twenty foreigners.
The commercial cargo boat will transport drugs for Palestinians suffering from cancer, the rate of which has risen in Gaza, according to Hajj, after the war Israel launched against the Strip at the end of 2008.
The AFP also reported from sources from the European Campaign to End the Siege on Gaza that Freedom Flotilla II, which will include more vessels and carry more passengers than the first freedom flotilla, is expected to set sail following the conclusion of the World Cup. According to the campaign, the majority of those who signed up to participate on the aid mission ship are European citizens, noting that government officials from Europe have expressed strong interest in participating in missions to break the siege on the Gaza Strip.
However, according to Hebrew daily Yediot Ahronot, Israeli authorities have been contacting the EU states and other international authorities, demanding that they do not allow Freedom Flotilla 2 or other aid ships headed for Gaza to depart from their ports. They also demand that European citizens are prevented from participating in the missions, claiming that they "seek to work against the interests of Israel."
The e-version of the newspaper reported that Israeli naval forces are preparing to block the arrival of ten new aid vessels in pursuit of breaking the siege on Gaza. A ship bearing the name Naji Al-Ali from Lebanon along with two other ships belonging to the Iranian Red Crescent are scheduled to arrive in Gaza in the coming days.
In The Land of the B
- 16 Jun 2010 09:09
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haymaker wrote,
"Of course the people on the ship would attack the Israelis and good luck to them. It is the same with firing rockets into Israel. They do it beacuse Israel has taken their land and also good luck to them. If I had any spare money I might give them some to buy some more rockets. "
So it is not just "illegal" settlers and current Israeli govt policy you are against and want to kill and maim with rockets, it's "legal" innocent men, women and children living in Israel proper on undisputed territory, IS'NT IT?
By your own words.....
Methinks he protesteth too much about having Jewish "friends" etc. He reminds me
of the people who gleefully betrayed their life long friends and neighbours to the Einsatzgruppen for torture and murder throughout Europe to seize the homes and property for themselves.
Amongst them were very many of my wife's family, and yes, I have been to concentration camps, cynic, including Belsen, Dachau and Auschwitz-Birkenau where many were slaughtered.
Such behaviour is, of course, not unique. Many villagers in Bosnia gave up their Muslim "friends" and neighbours to the Serb murderers.
So yes, I can easily see haymaker being exactly the same sort of person........simply by his own words, some of which include, "If I had any spare money I might give them some to buy some more rockets. "
He doesn't fool me, he disgusts me with his murderous intent.
cynic
- 16 Jun 2010 09:44
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i too have been to dachau ..... i could cope with the gas ovens, though the ami using it for a photoshoot with his pal was pretty sick and inappropriate, but the "shower room" did my head in, and i decided that was enough ..... i'ld hate to think what the film show and museum were like ..... i went back to the town on the local bus, and i was puzzled for a while by the fence down the central reservation of the road, until it dawned on me that it was a pretty subtle memorial on full view of the outer perimeter of the whole camp
Haystack
- 16 Jun 2010 11:33
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In The Land of the B
All of Israel is disputed territory! The Palestinians claim all the land between the Jordan river and the sea. It has nothing to do with Jewishness. I am afraid that the anti-semetic nonsense doesn't wash anymore. Supporters of Israel just shout anti-semetic and it has no affect now as there are plenty of people who are just anti-Israel.
You are just trotting out the same tired old concentration camp nonsense. Israel has nothing to do with the terrible things that happened in the war. What relevance do you think it has to do with modern day Israel? Israel is a country run by thugs with thuggish behaviour. It wouldn't matter if they were all muslims or all different races and religions.
As regards Jewish friends, I also have Arab friends. Most of my Arab friends are against what Israel does and some of my Jewish friends are against Israel as well. There are plenty of Israelis who are opposed to what their government does as well.
In The Land of the B
- 16 Jun 2010 12:13
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"Israel has nothing to do with the terrible things that happened in the war. "
Ever heard of the Holocaust? Do you think Israeli policy isn't influenced by the genocide and a determination it will never happen again?
"Israel is a country run by thugs with thuggish behaviour."
"All of Israel is disputed territory"
Ya wohl, und Poland und der Sudentland ist der land of der Deutche Volk.
Typical nazi propaganda and demonisation, lapped up and regurgitated.
I can see exactly what you are.
One of the worst kind.