Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

and fish and vegetables
they also have to have a separate hand-basin with scrubbing brush, and i'm sure a host of other regs

for sure some food establishments are pretty disgusting to say the least, but then so are many homes.

funny how the french seem pretty unconcerned about many of these "nanny state" regs

my kitchen is spotless . and only use towels that we put in the bin .

of course .... you're almost certainly anal about it too

cynic why do you hate facts why do you not wright to papers and complain about heir reports

Papers like sensational stories as you do. The reality is that most restaurants are fine and a few are bad. I have never had food poisoning as far as I know. That goes for my wife and kids. We have eaten in restaurants for years on a regular basis. I have friends who own restaurants and I often see the amount of work involved in cleaning the restaurant/kitchen on a daily basis. Every few months they employ a company that comes in overnight to make a deep clean. I just looked them up on the food standards web site above and they all got 5 out of 5.

But regulations are only good, when you wish to prosecute somebody else.


(Not true, before Manuel jumps on me.)

If you are worried about hygiene I suggest looking at one’s own personal “touch and non-touch” habits.

The dirtiest things in a kitchen are the towels, dish clothes, wipe downs which are used to wipe down and spread the bugs around and fresh meat and fish products are also a problem.

Leaving out viral infections from "shellfish".

In a kitchen it is sometimes difficult to adhere to the rules, but I wince sometimes by examples shown on "food programmes".

Sometimes, cross infection seems to be down to good or bad techniques and “luck”. (Whether, or not there is a bugger about.)

Use restaurants very infrequently nowadays, prefer my own cooking and prices.

But, I was watching some chefs and a kitchen in France about a week ago and was glad I was sticking to a beer.

Also, some seem to have more resistance to bugs than others, or perhaps there is a reason for drinking Rakija or Vinjac.

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Chocolate or cocoa, if taken at the prescribed rate will probably give you type 2 diabetes and an inability not to forget you are ill.

8-)

Not sure why you think that cocoa will give you type 2 diabetes. I just looked at a pack of cocoa and the is 14 calories per mug. I use boiling water to make it with a splash of skimmed milk and no sugar. I doubt that my cup of cocoa comes to even 30 calories.

fred - i think you and i are much the same age .... that being so, we were brought up in an era of eat a peck of dirt before you die, and therefore built up significant tolerances and immunities .....

while admitting that food processing and the like has almost certainly increased the number of "nasties" that are around, i'm pretty certain that today's obsession with hygiene in all areas of our lives, means we are now much more suspect to infections of many kinds

Tanker your post above 27392....... Haystack ie, the Bill part of the duo Bill and Ben(cynic).

Yep your right he just ignores other peoples findings and true facts but at the same time he uses his own and Bens as though they were written in law.

Just look at his analysis of the Poll findings each week. If labour have had a good week.......he says ohhh not a big enough and accurate reflection of the public...BUT..... if Tories have had a good week hes shouting from the roof tops.

Just ignore the weak man and filter him, honestly hes just a waste of time as is his bum chum Ben.

And when did Labour have a good week in recent history? Never.

Hays,

That must be one reason for you being such a miserable B. Treat yourself to cocoa with fully cream milk and a large dollop of condensed milk.

Used to drink similar after potholing when I was young an slim. Daren't now.

Cynic.

Yes and No. Some contaminations are more virulent and less responsive to treatments and also naivety of younger generation in food preparation, conservation and application of simple hygiene.

Anyway, and more important, you are 10 years junior to me.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-told-ditch-balls-to-lose-ghost-of-brown-8759330.html

Labour told: Ditch Balls to lose ghost of Brown

Ed Miliband came under fresh pressure to ditch his shadow chancellor today after a poll showed voters increasingly putting their trust in the Tories to best run the economy.

The ICM survey for the Guardian showed David Cameron and George Osborne extending their lead for economic competence. The proportion of people backing them rose from 28 per cent in June to 40 per cent this month.

The numbers of those backing Mr Miliband and Ed Balls also rose, but from 19 per cent to just 24 per cent. One Labour MP suggested shadow chancellor Mr Balls was the problem.

The senior backbencher said: “It’s unfortunate that every time Ed [Balls] stands up to speak you can see the ghost of Gordon Brown standing behind him. He was not Ed Miliband’s first choice, but if you look at the other people around they are just not ready yet.”

The backbencher said that while Mr Balls may survive the summer reshuffle Mr Miliband is believed to be considering, the shadow chancellor should be moved before the 2015 election to bring in “fresh thinking”.

He said: “[Shadow financial secretary to the Treasury] Chris Leslie has a very endearing, calm and intelligent manner. The contrast between him and a sneering George Osborne could be incredibly beneficial for the party.”

Earlier this week there were reports Mr Miliband was also being urged to sack shadow health secretary Andy Burnham for his close connections to the Blair/Brown era. Mr Burnham stirred controversy at the weekend after voicing concerns that Labour should be “shouting louder” if it wanted to win the next election.

Meanwhile Labour MP for Blackley and Broughton Graham Stringer this week questioned the shadow cabinet’s “deafening silence” over the summer recess.

Labour’s overall poll lead on voting intentions has fallen from a high of 13 points in February to an average of just five points last month.

Today’s ICM poll showed 35 per cent of people intended to vote Labour. The Tories were on 32 per cent, the Liberal Democrats on 14 per cent and Ukip on 10 per cent.

gold you are correct .

they are blind and you have to feel sorry for them
cynic lives a lie echo just agrees sad but fact

I was playing chess with my grand son on holidays and I noticed he was stalling.

Then I realised he was waiting for me to make the usual mistakes.

I think Ed is doing the same with Wavy Davy and Boyo George.

Why try to hang a man, when you can see him jumping off a high cliff.

They can twist and turn but can't flap forever.

their was a poster on am around 15 years ago called tanker1 wonder if he is still alive

fred - if that is so, no wonder you're so curmudgeonly .... now i know what to look forward to :-)

Moneyam wasn't here 15 years ago.

You will be wanting this Welcome

When did money am start?.

Think I was in first 30 or so posters. Might be wrong but I was in early and I think that was 1999.

Think aldwick was in just before me and think Hilary also was an early poster as was Tanker.

Bill and Ben were late entrys. (SLOW)

Click the link GF!