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Football, What chances !, World Cup, Euro, Clubs, for all : home and away ! (FC)     

required field - 14 Jul 2010 13:55

It is now time to switch to a new Money AM football blog as the world cup is now over and we all look to the future.....World cup 2010 is over, Bravo Espana, and Forlan, once again and bring on the new season !.....I never expected the last thread to be such a success...thanks all.... so this new one might go on for years without the need to edit the title...we shall see...

goldfinger - 09 Apr 2014 00:38 - 2797 of 6918

Ill give you medals he'l never be good enough to win......

1964 European Footballer Of The Year........Dennis law

1966 European Footballer Of The Year ...........Bobby Charlton

1968 European Footballer of The Year......... George Best

All played in the same team, and all came second and third in other years.


Rooney cant hold a finger to these greats.

The honours above for Rooney are pale in significance.

2517GEORGE - 09 Apr 2014 12:40 - 2798 of 6918

Noticeable that for individual honours he has won diddley squat since 2009/2010.
2517

Chris Carson - 09 Apr 2014 16:54 - 2799 of 6918

Better clear this up right here, right now. I personaly don't give a flying fxxk re Wayne Rooney, as far as I'm concerned he is still a fat greedy bxxxxxd for leaving EFC in 2004. But that's life, thanks for the 30mill.

My point and pxxs taking is in answer to GF's absurd accusation that Man Utd's demise is down to Wayne Rooney.

And on that note, break out the Scnapps! Come on Bayern murder the baxxxxxs! :O)




goldfinger - 09 Apr 2014 17:21 - 2800 of 6918

Ohhhhhhh dear Chris, youve lost the debate so you self explode.

Hope this doesnt happen to the toffees who I have great respect for especially this season.

Chris Carson - 09 Apr 2014 17:38 - 2801 of 6918

Lost the debate GF? What was the question?

goldfinger - 09 Apr 2014 17:51 - 2802 of 6918

Dunno but you started it after I posted Rooneys form wasnt good enough to take him to the World Cup.

I suppose now theirs nobody else, lets face it we have only about 4 or 5 strikers in the premiership worth considering and the pot as never been as dry.

Dil - 09 Apr 2014 18:08 - 2803 of 6918

It's Moyes fault not Rooney , everyone in the country can see it except Man U Board and they're one eyed fans.

Long may it continue :-)

Chris Carson - 09 Apr 2014 18:09 - 2804 of 6918

Exactly GF, so he has to go doesn't he, irrespective of whatever form you or I agree or disagree he is in. :O)

goldfinger - 09 Apr 2014 18:29 - 2805 of 6918

What about that lad at Burnley Danny Ings??.

Anyway your argument wasnt one of short supply, you were backing up silly remarks that hes one of the Worlds best players............totaly wrong.

Hes average at best.

Wasnt always like that mind. Fergie played him down the left so that Ronaldo could play down the centre. Played him out of position too many times.

The problem really is when you look at it deeply and historicaly thats hes a 'jack of all trades rather than a master of none'.

Chris Carson - 09 Apr 2014 18:35 - 2806 of 6918

I give in, surrender GF, lets just agree to disagree on this one.

goldfinger - 09 Apr 2014 18:42 - 2807 of 6918

Surrender!!!!!!! right straight to prison me lad with Maria Miller.

ptholden - 09 Apr 2014 21:48 - 2808 of 6918

Thought for 20 odd seconds Utd had a chance.

Gotta say, Rooney was poor throughout.

Chris Carson - 09 Apr 2014 22:08 - 2809 of 6918

Agree Rooney was poor tonight, but was he fit? United couldn't keep the ball, great goal by Evra. Best team won on the night.

goldfinger - 09 Apr 2014 22:25 - 2810 of 6918

Hes never fit these days Chris. The number of times he lost the ball and that chance on 50 minutes any other good striker would have put that away.

Its re-building for us now for the next 6 month or so.

Joe Say - 10 Apr 2014 07:26 - 2811 of 6918

True - Torres or Ba would have buried it

;)

Chris Carson - 10 Apr 2014 18:46 - 2812 of 6918

Borrowed from across the road :O)


The letter in full

The Rt Hon Mr David Cameron MP

Prime Minister

10 Downing St

London

SW1A 2AA

Dear Mr Cameron,

We would like to offer our sincerest sympathies with regards to the recent problems you have been experiencing concerning the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, Mrs Maria Miller and her subsequent resignation which was reported in the media today.

It is fully to your credit that we note you offered your full public support to Mrs Miller just days before she tended her resignation from your cabinet.

It has also been brought to our attention that at least 6 other times during your 4 years tenure as prime minister, you have unswervingly offered your full backing to members of your cabinet – every one of whom immediately then went on to offer their resignations sometimes within hours of your expression of support.

We would therefore be grateful if you could help us out by publicly issuing a statement offering your full backing to Mr David Moyes in his position as Manchester United head coach in the hope your support will have the same desirable effect.

We look forward to your cooperation in this important matter.

Yours faithfully,

Manchester Utd Official Supporters Club


hxxp://www.ibtimes.co.uk/no-10-plea-manchester-united-fans-beg-david-cameron-support-david-moyes-1444171



required field - 10 Apr 2014 19:16 - 2813 of 6918

Strange that the weakest side left in the Champions league draw for Chelsea is probably Real Madrid.....

Chris Carson - 10 Apr 2014 19:22 - 2814 of 6918


World Cup 2014: David Moyes must give Wayne Rooney a break so he is fit for England and the jungle of Manaus

England do not want Manchester United striker limping into another tournament. He needs his batteries recharged, the nation needs him





World Cup 2014: David Moyes must give Wayne Rooney a break so he is fit for England and the jungle of Manaus

Give me a break: Wayne Rooney needs his batteries recharged if England and Roy Hodgson is to get the best out of striker Photo: GETTY IMAGES








By Henry Winter

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The next most important match in the career of Wayne Rooney comes against Italy in Manaus in two months. He will still want to contribute to Manchester United’s fading season, playing against the likes of Everton, his old team, because he is a competitive individual who hates the role of spectator but what Rooney really needs is a break. He needs some time for the chipped bone in his toe to heel fully and for his batteries to be recharged. England do not want Rooney limping into another tournament.


It has become a wearisome tradition that Rooney neither starts nor finishes tournaments well. He often seems a symbol of the long, draining English season, his body battered or weakened by relentness club demands, and his own willingness to keep playing through the niggles. United’s former manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, often remarked that his English contingent were at risk of injury and fatigue in the spring because they trekked selflessly through the winter, through game after game, week after week, where (he claimed) some overseas players, not used to life without a winter break, briefly step off the treadmill, especially in World Cup years.


Certain players are well known within the game for pacing themselves in tournament years, ensuring there is fuel in the tank when they need to drive their countries on come June. Only mad dogs and Englishmen keep chasing the ball blindly.


The argument for a winter break is so obvious, so frequently stated by leading managers, that it is an enduring stain on the Premier League’s reputation that the organisation keeps resisting its introduction. Overseas broadcasters in particular pay fortunes to screen the English game when other, more sensible leagues close down. For those traditionalists decrying the need for change, any proposed winter break would be best between the third and fourth rounds of the FA Cup, so preserving the Christmas and New Year programme with a proviso that clubs can travel abroad for warm-weather training but not for exhibition games. It would also provide a wonderful showcase for the Football League.


Rooney would benefit from some respite from the match-day storm, refreshing mind and body. England would benefit. Roy Hodgson would be delighted. Of course, it is not David Moyes’ job to prepare players for England. His fellow-Scot, Ferguson, often said he would only work for England “to get them relegated”. But Moyes owes Rooney a break. It was Rooney in the first half of the season who played so well, who gave United hope, who gave some credibility to the new Moyes regime. He has had some special moments since, the occasional wonder-strike, but looks tired.


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Some observers argue that English players are given an easier ride by the media. Nonsense. They get scrutinised closely on and off the pitch. Rooney came in for certain criticism for his second-half lethargy against Bayern Munich and there was an argument that Moyes could have taken him off. Yet he remains a vital player for club and country.

Rooney can decide games. He can score, he can link midfield and attack, he can track back, putting in the type of hard yards that other strikers would not deign to do, preferring to conserve their energy. Rooney is a team player and if Hodgson’s team are to have any chance of getting out of a tough group in Brazil, they will need Rooney fit and sharp. He has too many rough edges to be a national treasure but the nation will need him in June.

This will be his last World Cup where he can make a full impact; Russia 2018 is too distant, and Rooney will be marching well into his 30s. It has to be now. He has not shone at a tournament since 2004. England need him. But he needs a breather first, one spent sensibly, not in Las Vegas, focusing on being ready for the World Cup, for the jungle of Manaus next

goldfinger - 10 Apr 2014 19:40 - 2815 of 6918

LOL Chris, history shows everytime Rooney (and this is without fail)as a lay off from football wether it be injury or left out of team due to insider politics it takes him about 4 to 6 games (sometimes more) for him to recapture his form.

Im sorry but Mr Henry Winter who as penned this article is just plain wrong.

I would support though Rooney playing 60 minutes of every game left of the season and then put on the plane to Brazil but a lay off .......no way, we'l be out before he hits his form, not that hes going to be pulling up trees anyway.

Chris Carson - 11 Apr 2014 01:23 - 2816 of 6918

Knackered and with a broken toe he is of no use to Utd either :O)
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