required field
- 14 Jul 2010 13:55
It is now time to switch to a new Money AM football blog as the world cup is now over and we all look to the future.....World cup 2010 is over, Bravo Espana, and Forlan, once again and bring on the new season !.....I never expected the last thread to be such a success...thanks all.... so this new one might go on for years without the need to edit the title...we shall see...
goldfinger
- 09 Apr 2014 17:21
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Ohhhhhhh dear Chris, youve lost the debate so you self explode.
Hope this doesnt happen to the toffees who I have great respect for especially this season.
Chris Carson
- 09 Apr 2014 17:38
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Lost the debate GF? What was the question?
goldfinger
- 09 Apr 2014 17:51
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Dunno but you started it after I posted Rooneys form wasnt good enough to take him to the World Cup.
I suppose now theirs nobody else, lets face it we have only about 4 or 5 strikers in the premiership worth considering and the pot as never been as dry.
Dil
- 09 Apr 2014 18:08
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It's Moyes fault not Rooney , everyone in the country can see it except Man U Board and they're one eyed fans.
Long may it continue :-)
Chris Carson
- 09 Apr 2014 18:09
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Exactly GF, so he has to go doesn't he, irrespective of whatever form you or I agree or disagree he is in. :O)
goldfinger
- 09 Apr 2014 18:29
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What about that lad at Burnley Danny Ings??.
Anyway your argument wasnt one of short supply, you were backing up silly remarks that hes one of the Worlds best players............totaly wrong.
Hes average at best.
Wasnt always like that mind. Fergie played him down the left so that Ronaldo could play down the centre. Played him out of position too many times.
The problem really is when you look at it deeply and historicaly thats hes a 'jack of all trades rather than a master of none'.
Chris Carson
- 09 Apr 2014 18:35
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I give in, surrender GF, lets just agree to disagree on this one.
goldfinger
- 09 Apr 2014 18:42
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Surrender!!!!!!! right straight to prison me lad with Maria Miller.
ptholden
- 09 Apr 2014 21:48
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Thought for 20 odd seconds Utd had a chance.
Gotta say, Rooney was poor throughout.
Chris Carson
- 09 Apr 2014 22:08
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Agree Rooney was poor tonight, but was he fit? United couldn't keep the ball, great goal by Evra. Best team won on the night.
goldfinger
- 09 Apr 2014 22:25
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Hes never fit these days Chris. The number of times he lost the ball and that chance on 50 minutes any other good striker would have put that away.
Its re-building for us now for the next 6 month or so.
Joe Say
- 10 Apr 2014 07:26
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True - Torres or Ba would have buried it
;)
Chris Carson
- 10 Apr 2014 18:46
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Borrowed from across the road :O)
The letter in full
The Rt Hon Mr David Cameron MP
Prime Minister
10 Downing St
London
SW1A 2AA
Dear Mr Cameron,
We would like to offer our sincerest sympathies with regards to the recent problems you have been experiencing concerning the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, Mrs Maria Miller and her subsequent resignation which was reported in the media today.
It is fully to your credit that we note you offered your full public support to Mrs Miller just days before she tended her resignation from your cabinet.
It has also been brought to our attention that at least 6 other times during your 4 years tenure as prime minister, you have unswervingly offered your full backing to members of your cabinet – every one of whom immediately then went on to offer their resignations sometimes within hours of your expression of support.
We would therefore be grateful if you could help us out by publicly issuing a statement offering your full backing to Mr David Moyes in his position as Manchester United head coach in the hope your support will have the same desirable effect.
We look forward to your cooperation in this important matter.
Yours faithfully,
Manchester Utd Official Supporters Club
hxxp://www.ibtimes.co.uk/no-10-plea-manchester-united-fans-beg-david-cameron-support-david-moyes-1444171
required field
- 10 Apr 2014 19:16
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Strange that the weakest side left in the Champions league draw for Chelsea is probably Real Madrid.....
Chris Carson
- 10 Apr 2014 19:22
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World Cup 2014: David Moyes must give Wayne Rooney a break so he is fit for England and the jungle of Manaus
England do not want Manchester United striker limping into another tournament. He needs his batteries recharged, the nation needs him
World Cup 2014: David Moyes must give Wayne Rooney a break so he is fit for England and the jungle of Manaus
Give me a break: Wayne Rooney needs his batteries recharged if England and Roy Hodgson is to get the best out of striker Photo: GETTY IMAGES
By Henry Winter
2:03PM BST 10 Apr 2014
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The next most important match in the career of Wayne Rooney comes against Italy in Manaus in two months. He will still want to contribute to Manchester United’s fading season, playing against the likes of Everton, his old team, because he is a competitive individual who hates the role of spectator but what Rooney really needs is a break. He needs some time for the chipped bone in his toe to heel fully and for his batteries to be recharged. England do not want Rooney limping into another tournament.
It has become a wearisome tradition that Rooney neither starts nor finishes tournaments well. He often seems a symbol of the long, draining English season, his body battered or weakened by relentness club demands, and his own willingness to keep playing through the niggles. United’s former manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, often remarked that his English contingent were at risk of injury and fatigue in the spring because they trekked selflessly through the winter, through game after game, week after week, where (he claimed) some overseas players, not used to life without a winter break, briefly step off the treadmill, especially in World Cup years.
Certain players are well known within the game for pacing themselves in tournament years, ensuring there is fuel in the tank when they need to drive their countries on come June. Only mad dogs and Englishmen keep chasing the ball blindly.
The argument for a winter break is so obvious, so frequently stated by leading managers, that it is an enduring stain on the Premier League’s reputation that the organisation keeps resisting its introduction. Overseas broadcasters in particular pay fortunes to screen the English game when other, more sensible leagues close down. For those traditionalists decrying the need for change, any proposed winter break would be best between the third and fourth rounds of the FA Cup, so preserving the Christmas and New Year programme with a proviso that clubs can travel abroad for warm-weather training but not for exhibition games. It would also provide a wonderful showcase for the Football League.
Rooney would benefit from some respite from the match-day storm, refreshing mind and body. England would benefit. Roy Hodgson would be delighted. Of course, it is not David Moyes’ job to prepare players for England. His fellow-Scot, Ferguson, often said he would only work for England “to get them relegated”. But Moyes owes Rooney a break. It was Rooney in the first half of the season who played so well, who gave United hope, who gave some credibility to the new Moyes regime. He has had some special moments since, the occasional wonder-strike, but looks tired.
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Some observers argue that English players are given an easier ride by the media. Nonsense. They get scrutinised closely on and off the pitch. Rooney came in for certain criticism for his second-half lethargy against Bayern Munich and there was an argument that Moyes could have taken him off. Yet he remains a vital player for club and country.
Rooney can decide games. He can score, he can link midfield and attack, he can track back, putting in the type of hard yards that other strikers would not deign to do, preferring to conserve their energy. Rooney is a team player and if Hodgson’s team are to have any chance of getting out of a tough group in Brazil, they will need Rooney fit and sharp. He has too many rough edges to be a national treasure but the nation will need him in June.
This will be his last World Cup where he can make a full impact; Russia 2018 is too distant, and Rooney will be marching well into his 30s. It has to be now. He has not shone at a tournament since 2004. England need him. But he needs a breather first, one spent sensibly, not in Las Vegas, focusing on being ready for the World Cup, for the jungle of Manaus next
goldfinger
- 10 Apr 2014 19:40
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LOL Chris, history shows everytime Rooney (and this is without fail)as a lay off from football wether it be injury or left out of team due to insider politics it takes him about 4 to 6 games (sometimes more) for him to recapture his form.
Im sorry but Mr Henry Winter who as penned this article is just plain wrong.
I would support though Rooney playing 60 minutes of every game left of the season and then put on the plane to Brazil but a lay off .......no way, we'l be out before he hits his form, not that hes going to be pulling up trees anyway.
Chris Carson
- 11 Apr 2014 01:23
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Knackered and with a broken toe he is of no use to Utd either :O)
goldfinger
- 11 Apr 2014 01:47
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Is it broken???? behind the curve I hadnt heard that. cheers.
required field
- 11 Apr 2014 17:49
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Not too bad a draw for Chelsea as the return leg is at home.....difficult but not impossible for them to reach the final.....must get two away goals in Madrid (easier said than done) I would think and defend well.....it won't be easy for any of the semifinalists that's for sure....
Chris Carson
- 13 Apr 2014 10:11
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From my seat: Sunderland (A)
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From my seat: Sunderland (A)
Deulofeu magic brings seventh win
From The Dixie Dean Suite...
A visit to the home of the Mackems is never the best of away trips but, in our present league position, one that engendered both excitement and dread. Could we make it seven wins on the bounce? Could we go 4th? Could Barry survive a 10th yellow card? Well... 'Yes' was the ultimate answer — but not without a rollercoaster of emotions. Top versus bottom, and add to the mix both teams desperate for a win, for differing reasons, was always going to produce a game that pitted two teams fighting for their lives against each other and (in true football folklore) the game would be decided by no more than the rub of the green.
The moment of silence was interrupted a little by late arriving fans but otherwise very respectful. The game started with Sunderland fast out of the traps and looking for an early breakthrough; their start did seem to unsettle us a little and our usual flow was definitely short-circuited. We eventually settled and had forays forward that looked promising; by the 25-min mark, we had Deulofeu racing forward and twisting and turning to make space for a shot that went straight to the keeper, as did one from Lukaku after he was put in. Then the big chance when I think Baines fed in Naismith who did a delightful turn but blasted over which was a bit of a shock after the goalscoring form he has been showing of late.
You could say that, by now, we were mostly in control without looking particularly sharp where it matters. Sunderland were making it difficult, as you would expect, but it did not account for both Baines and Deulofeu putting in crosses from dead-ball situations that were best described as flat and poor.
Sunderland were always looking to break and in the final fifteen we almost paid the price for momentarily switching off when their attack ran out of steam, allowing Baines a free kick at the ball; he chose to pass back to the keeper without looking and did not put enough pace on it, allowing a Sunderland attacker to pounce as Howard was left stranded... but for the excellent Stones getting across to clear from the line, then who knows how the game may have gone? We did get a free kick near the edge of the box; real Baines territory, you might say... but, alas, his dead-ball kick was again poor as he merely hit the wall and the chance was gone in a flash.
Into the last five minutes of the half and Sunderland had a right go; but for the energetic McCarthy making three blocks, we may have paid a heavy price, as the half ended in scrappy fashion.
Half-time and chat centred on Spurs 3-1 down and many a call for the manager to change it during the break with most favouring Mirallas and Barkley for Deulofeu and Osman. Roberto’s response – No change.
Second half and it started as the first had ended, producing a game that was a contest between two desperate teams, a league game with cup-tie connotations that ensured end to end stuff with no quarter asked or given.
Fans were on edge and our crowd sort of sang, sort of chanted... but, such is our desire for CL footy, the best we got was a roar for a foray forward and a slightly different roar for rearguard action to be completed.
The hour mark came and we are under some pressure, so the manager swops Osman for Barkley, which was quite well received, but Sunderland had a corner that almost undid us; from my seat it resembled a mass of bodies... somehow someone got a boot to the ball and we set off on a break via our outlet ball to Deulofeu who, at pace, reached the by-line but yet again his final ball was poor. For once the ‘Martinez way’ was abandoned from time to time as the defenders under pressure decided to lump it but, just like the old times, it kept coming back. Yet, from one of these lumps, the ball fell between keeper, defender and Naismith, it was kind to our man who had an open goal to aim at but alas he hit it horridly and wide. Two sitters missed by Naismith! Almost unheard of these days.
Time was moving on – ever faster, it seemed. All were getting edgier and edgier as most feared another three points dropped to Sunderland in one season could well see our season end. We were living on our nerves now. Almost a goal when Big Rom spotted Barkley at the far post and crossed, Barkley didn’t get the best connection and allowed the keeper to put it behind for a corner which Baines took, hit in low and the chance was gone. We got another corner on the other side, how would he take this? Much better, it turned out, and Big Rom headed just wide – Oh the tension!
Into the 70 minutes now and Sunderland swop Colback and find renewed energy: from one sustained attack, Ki fires hard and low but Howard saved yet the ball got away from him but he was up like Big Nev and gathered at the second attempt and started an attack which yet again saw Deulofeu race his way into the box but yet again prompting me to call for Mirallas to replace him – good job I am not the manager, eh!
As we go on a forward spell ourselves that sees Barkley mis-hit one from 20 yards; then, on 75 mins, Deulofeu was played into the box again: same scenario, twists and turns and a cross from the by-line but this time he pulled it back a little, hit a defender and into the net — Pandemonium on pitch, terraces and wherever Blues were watching the game. I imagined fans coming from behind sofas and dancing around rooms yelling as though demented. A scrappy goal, yes, an undeserved blow to our hosts... but, at that moment to us, it was the goal of the season.
I am not sure what happened in the next few minutes as we were still taking the goal in and, in true fan fashion, no fretting about not letting that lead go. I got back into the game on eighty minutes when our manager swopped Deulofeu for McGeady and he left the pitch to a hero’s acclimation; would it have been the same without THAT cross?
Ten mins to go and Sunderland, with absolutely nothing to lose really, went for it with and our rear guard was tested with Stones probably having the coolest head of all and without doubt saving the day on two occasions when you thought ‘that’s it’.
The clock ticked down ever slower, Sunderland didn’t afford us any time to show our Olé football, à la Arsenal, so hoof it was again witnessed – but did we care? Did we hell! "Keep 'em out!" was the drill we wanted as we saw more and more attacks on our goal and, more and more, we were equal to it. Get it down and play seemed the obvious way but, in these sorts of matches, it is not easy at all so defending that was effective was the new ‘tika-taka’.
Watches and clocks were checked every ten seconds and it still seemed to indicate five to go. We won a throw-in and cheered the chance to the rafters as Coleman took his time, it really was that sort of game now. We had an attack from McGeady but he lost the ball and Sunderland broke quickly and hearts in mouths as we give away a free-kick to break up the move but it was within range, yet we scrambled it away to again loud cheers from the faithful. Big Rom went on a run but a poor pass let that move down and they came again as 3 mins of added time went up. Distin fouled in making a tackle and gave away a free kick some 25 yards out. Johnson took; Howard saved, more cheers – nervous ones mind.
We attacked from the clearance but it breaks down and they get the ball forward in dangerous fashion but the roar from the away end was of relief as the linesman’s flag was raised for offside — phew! "Blow, ref, blow!" I yelled; he did... we had won. Not in the best manner but that’s often the game you get when two teams collide and both have vital but differing reasons for a win. Seven on the bounce – we are on our way, with just five more to navigate to wins. We can – Can’t we?
MotM. No-one really stood out but all battled really well. I would nominate Barry/Stones/McCarthy as the pick.
So, 1-0 win via an own-goal against the bottom team in the last-chance saloon does not sound great... but it will go down as a vital win when set against the importance of the game to both teams. Although Sunderland had us under the cosh for long periods of the second half, they failed to create or look like taking half chances; in the end, it was probably our quality on the pitch and from the bench that created enough to force an own-goal.
Palace on Wednesday and their win today that almost ensures their safety may help us; hope so. Time now for the players to recover – along with the fans' voices. Exciting times coming thick and fast; we have the momentum... now let’s get the points!
UP THE BLUES
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Clarence Yurcan
668 Posted 13/04/2014 at 01:09:52 Great report, as usual. Not to sound myopic, but I like to think my maiden voyage to Goodison this season has imbued us with some magic...
Anyway, in the pub I was at here in the US we deliriously belted out this classic number after the goal:
"Oh, oh oh, he's magic,
You Know,
Gerard Deu-lo-fe-u"
Peter Creer
678 Posted 13/04/2014 at 02:27:29 Thank you Ken for another great report. Watching the game live here in Canada was a very different experience from last weeks thrashing of Arsenal, however, at the end of the day we ended up with the win and that is brilliant.
I know that Deulofeu ended up making the goal but when the game started and the first half progressed I was struggling with his lack of motivation to track back or make any attempt to put any pressure on the defenders, especially when he had lost the ball. Even Seamus started to get on his back and that may have got him moving. When he came on against Arsenal he was putting on the pressure, albeit at a very late time in the game, but as a sub he seems to get in their faces a bit more.
Stones continues to impress and when Jagielka returns I would have to say that I would be dropping Distin (as good as he has been). He prevented the goal which would have made it into a very different game. Stones would have to be Moyes' going away present!
Seven games in a row. Nothing more to say......other than bring on bring on Palace at Goodison and COYB!
Derek Thomas
679 Posted 13/04/2014 at 02:35:17 Pretty much as I saw it from 12,000miles away Ken.
As always seems to be the case, when you're at the bottom nothing seems to go your way and when you're up near the top you get the breaks.
I might still be getting post Moyes flashbacks or maybe I just can't believe our luck, whatever, but I suspect a few of the last 7 games would not 've been won under the old regime, maybe not lost, but not won.
It could be that the old Arnold Palmer adage applies... people call me lucky, but it seems the harder I practice, the luckier I get.
Brian Sephton
687 Posted 13/04/2014 at 05:00:56 Great report but I think a bit kind to Gerard. I will stick my neck out and say he is not ready for the Premier League and is a bit of a prima donna.
Great result for the boys; for me, Barry was MotM just from the wonderful to watch John Stones. Yes, he makes the odd mistake, but I get such a happy warm feeling inside when he is on the ball, the feeling has only happened a few times in 63 years. So he is in great company already for me.
Long way to go yet but we couldn’t do any more than win.
COYB
Matt Traynor
689 Posted 13/04/2014 at 06:00:19 Good report Ken, although I wouldn't describe that 2nd Naismith miss as a "sitter" - albeit like you with the form he's in and his general ability, I expected better.
It was a tough game - there were some meaty tackles going in from Sunderland, and Probert - who I can't decide if I don't mind or detest - was letting a lot go.
The definition of scraping a win, but that's the mark of a good side.
Brian Hill
691 Posted 13/04/2014 at 06:53:57 Coleman struggled today, offering little going forward and looking flustered defensively at times, eventually receiving a justified yellow card. As others have observed, he seemed to become somewhat frustrated with Deulofeu and his refusal to pass.
I feel that we shall need Coleman at his marauding best against Palace as they will be very difficult to break down, as all Pulis sides are.
BTW, Derek@679, I don't follow golf much, but do live in South Africa. I'm sure it was Gary Player who made the practice/lucky comment.
Brian Hill
693 Posted 13/04/2014 at 07:10:08 Just watched the highlights on some early TV show here in SA. Despite Coleman's frustration, he was the first to celebrate with Gerard after the winner. A further demonstration of our wonderful team spirit. Ain't no stopping us now!!
Michael Penley
694 Posted 13/04/2014 at 07:15:05 Brian, I remember an interview with Gerard where he said he and Coleman connected immediately and they get along great. Stuff like that might be the difference when it comes to loan players wanting to stay (or I like to think so!).
Jim Potter
697 Posted 13/04/2014 at 07:51:26 A scrappy win after last week's classy victory. This is exactly what top teams do.
Derek - wasn't that a Gary Player quote?
Derek Thomas
698 Posted 13/04/2014 at 08:19:38 Brian and Jim; not that I need to use google, he replied modestly, but if I ever did and put in Arnold Palmer quote luck, strangely enough up it pops, though I think they both maybe mis-quoting Blackadder's Elizabethan Puritan Auntie....Luck, sounds a lot like F...I'll settle for jammy, but deserved
Brian Hill
700 Posted 13/04/2014 at 08:27:29 Derek,
What is "Blackadder's Elizabethan Puritan Auntie"?
Seems there is some dispute re Player/Palmer.
Where will it end?
Peter Bell
704 Posted 13/04/2014 at 08:48:21 I think the criticism of Delafeou is a bit OTT. Lost count the number of times he has knocked the ball across the 6 yard box for someone to just roll in, but no one is making the run. Could easily have a further 5 or 6 assists this season.
Craig Fletcher
707 Posted 13/04/2014 at 08:52:09 Agreed Peter. As frustrating as Deulofeu is sometimes, he's also often our likeliest source of a goal in a tight game such as yesterday's. And so it proved. Frustrating and exciting to watch in equal portions.
Shaun Lyon
709 Posted 13/04/2014 at 08:41:59 Marvellous report as ever Ken. Deulofeu is a wonderful talent but frustrating at times. In youth football I'm sure we're all familiar with the kid who, rather than playing a simple ball to an unmarked teammate standing in front of a gaping goal prefers to take on six of the opposition, beating about four of them before being dispossessed or running the ball out of play. You never want to stifle individualism of course and it was Gerry who got us the goal yesterday. But taking easier options might have led to a couple more. Still, what a raw talent.