required field
- 14 Jul 2010 13:55
It is now time to switch to a new Money AM football blog as the world cup is now over and we all look to the future.....World cup 2010 is over, Bravo Espana, and Forlan, once again and bring on the new season !.....I never expected the last thread to be such a success...thanks all.... so this new one might go on for years without the need to edit the title...we shall see...
required field
- 10 Apr 2014 19:16
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Strange that the weakest side left in the Champions league draw for Chelsea is probably Real Madrid.....
Chris Carson
- 10 Apr 2014 19:22
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World Cup 2014: David Moyes must give Wayne Rooney a break so he is fit for England and the jungle of Manaus
England do not want Manchester United striker limping into another tournament. He needs his batteries recharged, the nation needs him
World Cup 2014: David Moyes must give Wayne Rooney a break so he is fit for England and the jungle of Manaus
Give me a break: Wayne Rooney needs his batteries recharged if England and Roy Hodgson is to get the best out of striker Photo: GETTY IMAGES
By Henry Winter
2:03PM BST 10 Apr 2014
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The next most important match in the career of Wayne Rooney comes against Italy in Manaus in two months. He will still want to contribute to Manchester United’s fading season, playing against the likes of Everton, his old team, because he is a competitive individual who hates the role of spectator but what Rooney really needs is a break. He needs some time for the chipped bone in his toe to heel fully and for his batteries to be recharged. England do not want Rooney limping into another tournament.
It has become a wearisome tradition that Rooney neither starts nor finishes tournaments well. He often seems a symbol of the long, draining English season, his body battered or weakened by relentness club demands, and his own willingness to keep playing through the niggles. United’s former manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, often remarked that his English contingent were at risk of injury and fatigue in the spring because they trekked selflessly through the winter, through game after game, week after week, where (he claimed) some overseas players, not used to life without a winter break, briefly step off the treadmill, especially in World Cup years.
Certain players are well known within the game for pacing themselves in tournament years, ensuring there is fuel in the tank when they need to drive their countries on come June. Only mad dogs and Englishmen keep chasing the ball blindly.
The argument for a winter break is so obvious, so frequently stated by leading managers, that it is an enduring stain on the Premier League’s reputation that the organisation keeps resisting its introduction. Overseas broadcasters in particular pay fortunes to screen the English game when other, more sensible leagues close down. For those traditionalists decrying the need for change, any proposed winter break would be best between the third and fourth rounds of the FA Cup, so preserving the Christmas and New Year programme with a proviso that clubs can travel abroad for warm-weather training but not for exhibition games. It would also provide a wonderful showcase for the Football League.
Rooney would benefit from some respite from the match-day storm, refreshing mind and body. England would benefit. Roy Hodgson would be delighted. Of course, it is not David Moyes’ job to prepare players for England. His fellow-Scot, Ferguson, often said he would only work for England “to get them relegated”. But Moyes owes Rooney a break. It was Rooney in the first half of the season who played so well, who gave United hope, who gave some credibility to the new Moyes regime. He has had some special moments since, the occasional wonder-strike, but looks tired.
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Some observers argue that English players are given an easier ride by the media. Nonsense. They get scrutinised closely on and off the pitch. Rooney came in for certain criticism for his second-half lethargy against Bayern Munich and there was an argument that Moyes could have taken him off. Yet he remains a vital player for club and country.
Rooney can decide games. He can score, he can link midfield and attack, he can track back, putting in the type of hard yards that other strikers would not deign to do, preferring to conserve their energy. Rooney is a team player and if Hodgson’s team are to have any chance of getting out of a tough group in Brazil, they will need Rooney fit and sharp. He has too many rough edges to be a national treasure but the nation will need him in June.
This will be his last World Cup where he can make a full impact; Russia 2018 is too distant, and Rooney will be marching well into his 30s. It has to be now. He has not shone at a tournament since 2004. England need him. But he needs a breather first, one spent sensibly, not in Las Vegas, focusing on being ready for the World Cup, for the jungle of Manaus next
goldfinger
- 10 Apr 2014 19:40
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LOL Chris, history shows everytime Rooney (and this is without fail)as a lay off from football wether it be injury or left out of team due to insider politics it takes him about 4 to 6 games (sometimes more) for him to recapture his form.
Im sorry but Mr Henry Winter who as penned this article is just plain wrong.
I would support though Rooney playing 60 minutes of every game left of the season and then put on the plane to Brazil but a lay off .......no way, we'l be out before he hits his form, not that hes going to be pulling up trees anyway.
Chris Carson
- 11 Apr 2014 01:23
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Knackered and with a broken toe he is of no use to Utd either :O)
goldfinger
- 11 Apr 2014 01:47
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Is it broken???? behind the curve I hadnt heard that. cheers.
required field
- 11 Apr 2014 17:49
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Not too bad a draw for Chelsea as the return leg is at home.....difficult but not impossible for them to reach the final.....must get two away goals in Madrid (easier said than done) I would think and defend well.....it won't be easy for any of the semifinalists that's for sure....
Chris Carson
- 13 Apr 2014 10:11
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From my seat: Sunderland (A)
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From my seat: Sunderland (A)
Deulofeu magic brings seventh win
From The Dixie Dean Suite...
A visit to the home of the Mackems is never the best of away trips but, in our present league position, one that engendered both excitement and dread. Could we make it seven wins on the bounce? Could we go 4th? Could Barry survive a 10th yellow card? Well... 'Yes' was the ultimate answer — but not without a rollercoaster of emotions. Top versus bottom, and add to the mix both teams desperate for a win, for differing reasons, was always going to produce a game that pitted two teams fighting for their lives against each other and (in true football folklore) the game would be decided by no more than the rub of the green.
The moment of silence was interrupted a little by late arriving fans but otherwise very respectful. The game started with Sunderland fast out of the traps and looking for an early breakthrough; their start did seem to unsettle us a little and our usual flow was definitely short-circuited. We eventually settled and had forays forward that looked promising; by the 25-min mark, we had Deulofeu racing forward and twisting and turning to make space for a shot that went straight to the keeper, as did one from Lukaku after he was put in. Then the big chance when I think Baines fed in Naismith who did a delightful turn but blasted over which was a bit of a shock after the goalscoring form he has been showing of late.
You could say that, by now, we were mostly in control without looking particularly sharp where it matters. Sunderland were making it difficult, as you would expect, but it did not account for both Baines and Deulofeu putting in crosses from dead-ball situations that were best described as flat and poor.
Sunderland were always looking to break and in the final fifteen we almost paid the price for momentarily switching off when their attack ran out of steam, allowing Baines a free kick at the ball; he chose to pass back to the keeper without looking and did not put enough pace on it, allowing a Sunderland attacker to pounce as Howard was left stranded... but for the excellent Stones getting across to clear from the line, then who knows how the game may have gone? We did get a free kick near the edge of the box; real Baines territory, you might say... but, alas, his dead-ball kick was again poor as he merely hit the wall and the chance was gone in a flash.
Into the last five minutes of the half and Sunderland had a right go; but for the energetic McCarthy making three blocks, we may have paid a heavy price, as the half ended in scrappy fashion.
Half-time and chat centred on Spurs 3-1 down and many a call for the manager to change it during the break with most favouring Mirallas and Barkley for Deulofeu and Osman. Roberto’s response – No change.
Second half and it started as the first had ended, producing a game that was a contest between two desperate teams, a league game with cup-tie connotations that ensured end to end stuff with no quarter asked or given.
Fans were on edge and our crowd sort of sang, sort of chanted... but, such is our desire for CL footy, the best we got was a roar for a foray forward and a slightly different roar for rearguard action to be completed.
The hour mark came and we are under some pressure, so the manager swops Osman for Barkley, which was quite well received, but Sunderland had a corner that almost undid us; from my seat it resembled a mass of bodies... somehow someone got a boot to the ball and we set off on a break via our outlet ball to Deulofeu who, at pace, reached the by-line but yet again his final ball was poor. For once the ‘Martinez way’ was abandoned from time to time as the defenders under pressure decided to lump it but, just like the old times, it kept coming back. Yet, from one of these lumps, the ball fell between keeper, defender and Naismith, it was kind to our man who had an open goal to aim at but alas he hit it horridly and wide. Two sitters missed by Naismith! Almost unheard of these days.
Time was moving on – ever faster, it seemed. All were getting edgier and edgier as most feared another three points dropped to Sunderland in one season could well see our season end. We were living on our nerves now. Almost a goal when Big Rom spotted Barkley at the far post and crossed, Barkley didn’t get the best connection and allowed the keeper to put it behind for a corner which Baines took, hit in low and the chance was gone. We got another corner on the other side, how would he take this? Much better, it turned out, and Big Rom headed just wide – Oh the tension!
Into the 70 minutes now and Sunderland swop Colback and find renewed energy: from one sustained attack, Ki fires hard and low but Howard saved yet the ball got away from him but he was up like Big Nev and gathered at the second attempt and started an attack which yet again saw Deulofeu race his way into the box but yet again prompting me to call for Mirallas to replace him – good job I am not the manager, eh!
As we go on a forward spell ourselves that sees Barkley mis-hit one from 20 yards; then, on 75 mins, Deulofeu was played into the box again: same scenario, twists and turns and a cross from the by-line but this time he pulled it back a little, hit a defender and into the net — Pandemonium on pitch, terraces and wherever Blues were watching the game. I imagined fans coming from behind sofas and dancing around rooms yelling as though demented. A scrappy goal, yes, an undeserved blow to our hosts... but, at that moment to us, it was the goal of the season.
I am not sure what happened in the next few minutes as we were still taking the goal in and, in true fan fashion, no fretting about not letting that lead go. I got back into the game on eighty minutes when our manager swopped Deulofeu for McGeady and he left the pitch to a hero’s acclimation; would it have been the same without THAT cross?
Ten mins to go and Sunderland, with absolutely nothing to lose really, went for it with and our rear guard was tested with Stones probably having the coolest head of all and without doubt saving the day on two occasions when you thought ‘that’s it’.
The clock ticked down ever slower, Sunderland didn’t afford us any time to show our Olé football, à la Arsenal, so hoof it was again witnessed – but did we care? Did we hell! "Keep 'em out!" was the drill we wanted as we saw more and more attacks on our goal and, more and more, we were equal to it. Get it down and play seemed the obvious way but, in these sorts of matches, it is not easy at all so defending that was effective was the new ‘tika-taka’.
Watches and clocks were checked every ten seconds and it still seemed to indicate five to go. We won a throw-in and cheered the chance to the rafters as Coleman took his time, it really was that sort of game now. We had an attack from McGeady but he lost the ball and Sunderland broke quickly and hearts in mouths as we give away a free-kick to break up the move but it was within range, yet we scrambled it away to again loud cheers from the faithful. Big Rom went on a run but a poor pass let that move down and they came again as 3 mins of added time went up. Distin fouled in making a tackle and gave away a free kick some 25 yards out. Johnson took; Howard saved, more cheers – nervous ones mind.
We attacked from the clearance but it breaks down and they get the ball forward in dangerous fashion but the roar from the away end was of relief as the linesman’s flag was raised for offside — phew! "Blow, ref, blow!" I yelled; he did... we had won. Not in the best manner but that’s often the game you get when two teams collide and both have vital but differing reasons for a win. Seven on the bounce – we are on our way, with just five more to navigate to wins. We can – Can’t we?
MotM. No-one really stood out but all battled really well. I would nominate Barry/Stones/McCarthy as the pick.
So, 1-0 win via an own-goal against the bottom team in the last-chance saloon does not sound great... but it will go down as a vital win when set against the importance of the game to both teams. Although Sunderland had us under the cosh for long periods of the second half, they failed to create or look like taking half chances; in the end, it was probably our quality on the pitch and from the bench that created enough to force an own-goal.
Palace on Wednesday and their win today that almost ensures their safety may help us; hope so. Time now for the players to recover – along with the fans' voices. Exciting times coming thick and fast; we have the momentum... now let’s get the points!
UP THE BLUES
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Clarence Yurcan
668 Posted 13/04/2014 at 01:09:52 Great report, as usual. Not to sound myopic, but I like to think my maiden voyage to Goodison this season has imbued us with some magic...
Anyway, in the pub I was at here in the US we deliriously belted out this classic number after the goal:
"Oh, oh oh, he's magic,
You Know,
Gerard Deu-lo-fe-u"
Peter Creer
678 Posted 13/04/2014 at 02:27:29 Thank you Ken for another great report. Watching the game live here in Canada was a very different experience from last weeks thrashing of Arsenal, however, at the end of the day we ended up with the win and that is brilliant.
I know that Deulofeu ended up making the goal but when the game started and the first half progressed I was struggling with his lack of motivation to track back or make any attempt to put any pressure on the defenders, especially when he had lost the ball. Even Seamus started to get on his back and that may have got him moving. When he came on against Arsenal he was putting on the pressure, albeit at a very late time in the game, but as a sub he seems to get in their faces a bit more.
Stones continues to impress and when Jagielka returns I would have to say that I would be dropping Distin (as good as he has been). He prevented the goal which would have made it into a very different game. Stones would have to be Moyes' going away present!
Seven games in a row. Nothing more to say......other than bring on bring on Palace at Goodison and COYB!
Derek Thomas
679 Posted 13/04/2014 at 02:35:17 Pretty much as I saw it from 12,000miles away Ken.
As always seems to be the case, when you're at the bottom nothing seems to go your way and when you're up near the top you get the breaks.
I might still be getting post Moyes flashbacks or maybe I just can't believe our luck, whatever, but I suspect a few of the last 7 games would not 've been won under the old regime, maybe not lost, but not won.
It could be that the old Arnold Palmer adage applies... people call me lucky, but it seems the harder I practice, the luckier I get.
Brian Sephton
687 Posted 13/04/2014 at 05:00:56 Great report but I think a bit kind to Gerard. I will stick my neck out and say he is not ready for the Premier League and is a bit of a prima donna.
Great result for the boys; for me, Barry was MotM just from the wonderful to watch John Stones. Yes, he makes the odd mistake, but I get such a happy warm feeling inside when he is on the ball, the feeling has only happened a few times in 63 years. So he is in great company already for me.
Long way to go yet but we couldn’t do any more than win.
COYB
Matt Traynor
689 Posted 13/04/2014 at 06:00:19 Good report Ken, although I wouldn't describe that 2nd Naismith miss as a "sitter" - albeit like you with the form he's in and his general ability, I expected better.
It was a tough game - there were some meaty tackles going in from Sunderland, and Probert - who I can't decide if I don't mind or detest - was letting a lot go.
The definition of scraping a win, but that's the mark of a good side.
Brian Hill
691 Posted 13/04/2014 at 06:53:57 Coleman struggled today, offering little going forward and looking flustered defensively at times, eventually receiving a justified yellow card. As others have observed, he seemed to become somewhat frustrated with Deulofeu and his refusal to pass.
I feel that we shall need Coleman at his marauding best against Palace as they will be very difficult to break down, as all Pulis sides are.
BTW, Derek@679, I don't follow golf much, but do live in South Africa. I'm sure it was Gary Player who made the practice/lucky comment.
Brian Hill
693 Posted 13/04/2014 at 07:10:08 Just watched the highlights on some early TV show here in SA. Despite Coleman's frustration, he was the first to celebrate with Gerard after the winner. A further demonstration of our wonderful team spirit. Ain't no stopping us now!!
Michael Penley
694 Posted 13/04/2014 at 07:15:05 Brian, I remember an interview with Gerard where he said he and Coleman connected immediately and they get along great. Stuff like that might be the difference when it comes to loan players wanting to stay (or I like to think so!).
Jim Potter
697 Posted 13/04/2014 at 07:51:26 A scrappy win after last week's classy victory. This is exactly what top teams do.
Derek - wasn't that a Gary Player quote?
Derek Thomas
698 Posted 13/04/2014 at 08:19:38 Brian and Jim; not that I need to use google, he replied modestly, but if I ever did and put in Arnold Palmer quote luck, strangely enough up it pops, though I think they both maybe mis-quoting Blackadder's Elizabethan Puritan Auntie....Luck, sounds a lot like F...I'll settle for jammy, but deserved
Brian Hill
700 Posted 13/04/2014 at 08:27:29 Derek,
What is "Blackadder's Elizabethan Puritan Auntie"?
Seems there is some dispute re Player/Palmer.
Where will it end?
Peter Bell
704 Posted 13/04/2014 at 08:48:21 I think the criticism of Delafeou is a bit OTT. Lost count the number of times he has knocked the ball across the 6 yard box for someone to just roll in, but no one is making the run. Could easily have a further 5 or 6 assists this season.
Craig Fletcher
707 Posted 13/04/2014 at 08:52:09 Agreed Peter. As frustrating as Deulofeu is sometimes, he's also often our likeliest source of a goal in a tight game such as yesterday's. And so it proved. Frustrating and exciting to watch in equal portions.
Shaun Lyon
709 Posted 13/04/2014 at 08:41:59 Marvellous report as ever Ken. Deulofeu is a wonderful talent but frustrating at times. In youth football I'm sure we're all familiar with the kid who, rather than playing a simple ball to an unmarked teammate standing in front of a gaping goal prefers to take on six of the opposition, beating about four of them before being dispossessed or running the ball out of play. You never want to stifle individualism of course and it was Gerry who got us the goal yesterday. But taking easier options might have led to a couple more. Still, what a raw talent.
Dil
- 13 Apr 2014 12:51
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KidA
- 15 Apr 2014 12:45
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Barkley to Liverpool - cold weather in Hell.
Chris Carson
- 15 Apr 2014 13:57
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No way would EFC sell him to the red shite! and as Martinez has stated he will not be going out on loan :O)
KidA
- 15 Apr 2014 14:46
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He may never move but if he does, I can't see the point in going in the next two seasons; development and where Everton may be.
Cheers,
KidA
required field
- 16 Apr 2014 00:45
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Terrible tragedy for Liverpool (the city) and Sheffield and England, Europe and the Football World.....never again should we see people caged in like that again......
Dil
- 16 Apr 2014 08:09
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Yes terrible tragedy indeed but to blame all and sundry except the fans themselves is not on.
Yes there was a cover up but some of those thousands of fans inside the ground that day without tickets should take a long hard look at themselves.
And while we're at it why don't we have a minute silence for the Heysel Stadium victims too ?
Liverpool .... always the victims and never to blame !
HARRYCAT
- 16 Apr 2014 08:24
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I'm with you on that Dil. We seem obsessed with this particular tragedy and blatantly forget many other events where there was a (large) loss of life.
Stan
- 16 Apr 2014 08:26
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Obviously both on a fishing trip together.
Dil
- 16 Apr 2014 10:09
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Hey welcome back Stan been worried about you , long time no see and Burnley still flying high !
No fishing trip and I know many others who feel the same.
Dil
- 16 Apr 2014 10:38
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.... and the Liverpool Chairmans first reaction after Heysel was to blame Chelsea fans !
Chris Carson
- 16 Apr 2014 16:58
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7 thoughts on “Looking for fans who were at Everton v Norwich; FA Cup semi-final in 1989”
Steve Downes says:
November 24, 2011 at 11:34 am
I was a 15-year-old Norwich City fan, standing on the Holte End at Villa Park with my dad and brother. For most of the match I was terrified, because the end was so overloaded with supporters that I thought something disastrous was going to happen. At one point a big surge ended with me pressed against a crush barrier with a bruised rib. News of what was happening at Hillsborough began to filter through via people’s radios in the first half. The talk of the terrace was that the Liverpool fans had “kicked off”. Then the story began to clear, and it was obvious that some supporters had died. Nobody knew how many, or why. At this stage, if I’m being honest, I remained more concerned about Norwich City, who were putting on their usual FA Cup semi-final no-show. When the final whistle blew, we went back to our bus and the driver told us the grim reality of the Hillsborough disaster. Scores of people were dead. And suddenly the match that I had just watched meant nothing – absolutely nothing. After the initial “it could have been me” reaction (we were similarly squeezed in at the previous match, the FA Cup quarter final at West Ham), I was left with a sick feeling in my stomach, thinking about the awful demise of so many people. The journey home was quiet, as the fans reflected on something that was far more important than football.
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Barry ferguson says:
November 24, 2011 at 6:03 pm
As I got back on the coach to leave villa park I asked people why they were so miserable, it was then I was told there was 50+ dead at hillsborough. I was 15 and sat in shock for the rest of the journey wondering and hoping that my family members and friends were safe. The journey home was a nightmare
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Mike Nicholson says:
November 24, 2011 at 7:54 pm
From an unnamed Everton fan:
I travelled down in a mate’s car, met up with some others in a pub in Perry Barr and had the usual pre-match refreshment, which typically in those days was 6 or 7 pints and a soggy ham batch. Got in the Holte End about 10 to 3, as you do, stood right in the middle of the singing, as I always did at that age (18).
First signs of any trouble was the scoreboard in the far corner stating that the kick off had been delayed at Hillsborough, I think they attributed it to hooliganism (not 100% sure), but it certainly stated trouble of some sort – I remember thinking at the time, ‘them cunts are at it again’.
Anyways on to our game, I was getting involved in the singing and all that, the shouting the team on, etc, but the atmosphere was notably muted. I put it down to the relatively low key nature of the fixture and the fact we were expected to win comfortably.
The scoreboard told us the other semi had been abandoned at half time, again, thought nothing of it, and at no stage of that game did I know there was a disaster unfolding. Pat Nevin scored early in the 2nd half, I celebrated it like all other ‘big’ goals but again the celebrations around weren’t as frenetic as they should have been. Ditto the singing afterwards.
The first I heard about what had happened was on the steps at the back of the Holte End on the way out of the ground off a lad with a transistor radio stuck to his ear. Absolute focus on our own match and probably the pre-match juice meant I didn’t even think about what was happening elsewhere and why the atmosphere was so flat. Can’t remember exactly how many, think it was 15 he said had died on the terraces. At that point, I was absolutely gripped with panic, my mate and I hardly spoke on the way back to the car and we were hearing the death toll rise by eaves dropping fellow blues with radios.
Most Blues there that day knew people at the game. In my case, it was my then girlfriend who I’d been with for 11 months, Kop season ticket holder, always stood right in the middle and she’d had problems there the season previously. Her ma & da didn’t have a house phone so I couldn’t get in touch and obviously no mobiles. The drive back up the motorway listening to news reports with casualties rising by the report, knowing she was bound to have been right in the middle of the ‘trouble’, was horrendous.
The rest is a bit of a blur, I was knackered and getting hungover … me, her arl fella and brother-in-law got to Lime Street and waited for the remaining Sheffield trains to get in, ringing her mates house for any news of her mate’s ma. She wasn’t on any of the trains, but after the last one had got in we heard from her mate’s ma, she was critical in the Northern General Hospital. Her da and me jumped a cab straight up there, 2 things sticking out – the driver took the full fare (we later heard about altruistic drivers who were running people up there gratis; not in my experience) and her arl fella opening the window to wake me up every time I dropped off.
Addendum: The girlfriend slowly made a full recovery after 10 days in a coma, has a family and is good mates with my sister.
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Richard Jeffery says:
November 25, 2011 at 8:27 am
I’m a Norwich fan and was at the other semi final on the day of Hillsborough. I was 18 at the time.
We were running late on the way to the game, had had a few beers and were rushing to get into the ground. We were in the Holte End, then a massive bank of terracing. It was packed but the Police made us go us through a specific entrance and then took us right down to the front where there was more space. If only S Yorks police had been that organised.
We weren’t aware that anything untoward was happening at Hillsborough until half-time. Someone had a radio (pre-mobile phone days) and the Chinese whispers came through the crowd that 4 people had died at Hillsborough and the game had been called off, that was it. We assumed at the time that it was hooliganism, which at that time was a not unlikely happening and there was even some gallows humour about it.
Those of us at Villa Park were probably the only people in the country not aware of what was really happening in Sheffield and as a result both sets of fans were able to concentrate of the game, which was scrappy and unmemorable.
It wasn’t till we got back to our minibus and put the radio on that the full story of what had happened started to emerge and our disappointment at losing was soon forgotten as we sat listening to the developing story on the radio whilst we travelled home.
I look back and don’t think that the Cup final would have taken place that year if it hadn’t have been between Liverpool and Everton, so it was probably for the best that we lost that day.
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Paul Buller says:
November 29, 2011 at 10:37 am
I was at the Everton v Norwich game, as a Norwich fan – I was 17 at the time. It was very surreal, no one around us knew what had really happened at Hillsborough until the game was over. We knew kick off had been delayed but that was about it. I remember something coming up on the scoreboard at Villa Park, saying ‘Liverpool v Notts Forest, kick off delayed’ several times and we all thought it was probably down to hooligans, as was so common at many football matches back then.
When we got back to the coaches outside Villa Park, people were crying and it was only then that the full picture started to become clear. We sat around for what seemed hours just listening to the radio, in total disbelief.
I also remember suddenly feeling very scared on the way home once we finally got going; I’d just been standing amongst several thousand fans, getting swayed back and forth, up and down, and the realisation that it could have just as easily been us really hit me. I remember thinking just HOW easy it would be for that to happen. It still makes me shudder today. We hadn’t seen any TV pictures, just listened to sports commentators try to describe the scene, which made it somehow weirdly vivid, more so than perhaps it would have been if we were watching it.
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Bob Walne says:
November 29, 2011 at 1:20 pm
I was 15 and travelled to the game on one of Norwich City’s Club Canary coaches with 3 friends. It was a warm day and we were standing on the left hand side of the Holte end terrace. I remember seeing some lads I went to school with but for some reason we didn’t stand with them. We eventually took our place fairly near the front right next to the fence segregating the City and Everton fans.
We stood with a couple of Villa fans and struck up a conversation about football. We spoke about City’s chances which had been dealt a blow with key players Mike Phelan and Robert Fleck not playing.
During the first half, I remember one of them casually saying there was trouble at Hillsborough and there were fans on the pitch. Like a lot of people the immediate assumption was crowd trouble. We later heard the match had been abandoned. The Villa fans spent most of the first half exchanging “banter” with the Everton fans. They left at half time and we never saw them after that.
I can’t honestly remember anything else about the game (other than Norwich were awful and lost) or the events at Hillsborough until we got back on the coach. The radio was on and we heard that 42 people had died. I shivered when I heard that.
On the way home the coach was quiet. What really is there to say when people went to watch a game of football and didn’t come home.
In those days there were no mobile phones but its still unbelievable that we didn’t hear about the events at Hillsborough until after the game.
My mum who was back in Norwich saw the events on TV and for a few minutes was in a terrible panic as the TV coverage didn’t initially make it clear where the tragedy had taken place.
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Robert Daniels says:
December 11, 2011 at 11:15 pm
I was at the match, during the game we heard there had been trouble , and the match was delayed.
We then heard someone was dead, then more than one, five .
By the time the match had finnished it was ten or twenty, my head was spinning, coudnt take in what i was hearing, i,d only been to hilsbourough
once before , the league cup final replay versus aston villa, in 77.
I was 16 years old, when we equalised to take the game into extra time, i thought i wouldnt make it home.
the crowd surged forward and i was picked up off my feet, i came home without my shoes, my mam went mad at me , this was twenty years earlier.
when she heard about the 96 who died , she thanked god it wasnt me 20 years earlier, and appologised for telling me off for loseing my shoes!
Thinling back i believe it was a disaster waiting to happen, penned in like animals……
As we walked back to our coach from villa park , women were running ahead of me , with a look of terror on there faces, i spotted Andy King ,
he was just walking like every other fan , but his face was turned down, i couldnt believe it was him, walking next to us,
Andy i shouted, whats happened at the liverpool game, he turned , tears were streaming down his face, i then became frightened for my friends who were there, its awful he said, there dead , loads of them dead.
My heart skipped a beat , it wasnt about football anymore, people had died, friends had died.
The journey home was terrible, we had just got to the cup final, you would of thought we had been relagated.
Went to anfield early next day, i was overcome with emotion, all these people, had died, at a place were i thought for a moment i would die twenty years earlier,………………….
Left the shirt i wore and scarf,
Went home and cried, they just went to a football match, and didnt come home,
shankley who i loved , even as an everton fan was wrong its not more important…….
But i think he knew that..
Rip 96,
doodlebug4
- 16 Apr 2014 17:34
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Copa del Rey could be worth watching tonight. Ronaldo missing for Real Madrid, so it's a chance for Gareth Bale to take centre stage.
Dil
- 16 Apr 2014 22:33
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And he did.